Sea Ranger 47

Unfortunately, the web site is work in progress and the photo and video galleries are the part that never seems to get done!* I don't have any of the 'before' photos with me at the moment; they are sitting in a photo album on the boat in Greece (pre digital I'm afraid) and we are in Australia at the moment, but I have attached a couple of the 'after''photos.

The first owner specified a black saloon, so all of the teak was stained jet black and all of the furniture was black with mother of pearl inlays; it was a bit like a chinese restaurant!* The master cabin was done in*French antique style*with blue velvet upholstery*and a shag pile carpet.* It had to go.

We decided to return the saloon to a teak finish, but in a more contemporary style than the traditional trawler look.* For the master cabin we used maple to make it lighter, again in a more contemporary style.* It was a major project as both areas were stripped bare and toally rebuilt, but we think it was worth it to get what we wanted.

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All that space! I'm envious. Nice!

Nice, nice, nice!* I think I need a bigger boat!

Keith,
Nice work.
From the sounds of it the original must have looked like a high class broth.
You sure had some foresight to envisage the new concept.
Looks nice nw.
Where abouts in Aus and how long are you out here for.

Hi Benn,

I was tempted to describe the old interior as a brothel, but because I have never been in one I wasn't sure!!!!

Actually, the first owner of the boat*(it was called Yemen 5 back then) was part of the great rain robbery gang and took the boat from London down to the South of Spain.* In that era the Spanish authorities were quite lax and a lot of British criminals headed down there for the sun and sangria.* I am pretty sure there were some wild parties on our boat back then as one corner of the original teak parquet floor is covered in stiletto heel marks.......if only the walls could talk!

We are based on Byron Bay while in Oz and will probably be here for the rest of the year.*
If we get up to Mooloolaba we will look out for you.

Keith

We don't think you are crazy.* We love Delia Rosa... and for all the other lovely boats out there, we haven't seen any other boat that we would prefer to have -* at least in our price range.* So if you have the inclination, time and skill to work on as big a project as this would be... do it!

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Tell me why I am crazy for thinking this... I need help.. talk me off the ledge! Do you think all the wood will be ruined? Having been under water to some extent? ( My answer is yes!)

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Superdiver:

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"You're crazy! Get in off that ledge!"

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Save (invest) that money until the day you retire and buy a later model of a trawler you love. In the meantime, have fun with the boat you have and don't feel guity of wanting to use it instead of rebuilding the "project boat."* :juggle:

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-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Sunday 28th of August 2011 12:19:05 PM

This is a tough call.** Some people like to work on boats more than use them (it is a hobby in itself).* I fall about 50/50 into this group.

Also,* Nice to save an old boat from the scrap yard.

If you really enjoy project boats and have the time and means to replace every onboard system with new you would have an awesome boat.

If you are going to patch here and there and fix this and that, then you could have a less than thrilling result.

Yes some or even a lot of the wood will be ruined, it may have been delaminating before it sank.* You would have to figure how much you needed, find a good source for teak ply, and buy in bulk.

An inside (heated place) to work would be great too.

If you do all this and start looking for another project, you are more interested in boat building than boat using.

JohnP

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If you do all this and start looking for another project, you are more interested in boat building than boat using.

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******* Good point! Although I am certainly not a boat builder, I am guilty of* trying a lot* of the new do-dads & updating things on my boat that really aren't justified. As far as cruising long distances vs taking a 3 hour boat ride, I subscribe to the latter. My boat serves more as a "tree house" (place to get away) than anything else. I love my boat and often, when leaving the marina, I'll take a minute, sit on the dock box & admire her lines. Sick, huh?

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We have twin*Ford Lehman 135's on our Sea Ranger47...* Bomac Marine Power Corporation rebuild and make new Ford*Lehman*engines... apparently now 143 hp instead of 135.* We have found our engines to be very reliable and quite fuel efficient.

Is the Sea Ranger you are looking at the raised*pilothouse version like ours?*

We love the layout... nice covered aft cockpit - our*"back porch", a great flybridge area which is accessed by interior stairs from the pilothouse as well as a ladder in the aft cockpit.* And*we feel very safe with wide decks all the way around with doors on both port and starboard side of the pilot house.* Great for easy access*for line handling.

We have 3 cabins..,* twin bunks in the bow, small double on the port side.**Opposite is the guest head, with*sink, standing shower and toilet.* Then down two steps to our master cabin (which is actually directly under the pilothouse) *with separate head - sink, tub and toilet.

Although our galley/salon area is probably*smaller than versions without the raised pilothouse, we like having the great visibility of the pilothouse and it is also quite comfortable if one of us wants to read while the other watches a movie in the salon area.*

I don't think I could ask for more!

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Superdiver, check this site for teak veneer

http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/veneer/teak.html

The product comes in 4x8 sheets, rolled and boxed. Ships UPS, light and fairly inexpensive shipping cost. A 4x8 sheet of 10 mil quartered veneer is about $140. The heavy backing makes the veneer very forgiving, doesn't require perfection in the underlying surface. Easy to patch and replace damaged veneer.

Hi, I bought a C-kip 40ft in England a few years ago. I understand that all C-kips were sold though Kip marina in Inverkip Scotland and all C&L's imported there were called C-kip. I did visit that marina and test drive another C-kip there by the way, but the origainal owner of the marina had long passed away.

I found his quote on a CHB Yahoo forum:

"*I've owned a 1979 C&L 44 tri-cabin for 8 years, and believe the C&L yachts*more closely resemble the Marine Trader family than the CHBs, but they areall cousins built in Taiwan. I read in Passagemaker magazine several yearsago that the L in C&L was Alexander Lee, who became a part of Ocean*Alexander in the early 80's".

I have read b4 somewhere about this Ocean Alexander guy being the foreman at C&L B4 starting up at Ocean Alexander.*I have seen a number of Sea Ranger boats in Scotland/England but typicaly 38 footers. I I really like the looks of your boat.*The looks of the C-kips and Sea Rangers are very different.*I would also like to find out more about C&L.

Steven

Hi, Just discovered this forum. We have a 1981 47' sea Ranger PH "Summertime" which we have had for 10 years.* Great boat.* We are uaually in SC or GA waters.*

She's in the yard now for some repairs and I discovered, after all these years, that the HIN on the boat doesn't agree with that on the documentation.* The boat number starts with "BYC" and the documents with "EYC".* Can any of you confirm that "BYC" is correct?* I have to convince the CG that we didn't steal her.

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If I can get it for a low price I am pretty sure I will get it.. depends what the ins con will want form it...

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I hope things work out for you... as I have mentioned before, I haven't seen any other trawler in our price range that we would prefer!

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-- Edited by Delia Rosa on Thursday 29th of September 2011 12:43:53 PM

Hi Srnavigator,

Glad to see another Sea Ranger owner join the forum. *There doesn't seem to be too many of us out there!

Our hull number is JCG47052H585... supposedly built by a C&L yard in Taiwan in1985 but I haven't been able to track down anything else regarding her documentation. *

Your Sea Ranger looks like ours with the three cabin layout... I keep wondering how many others exist. *I'd love to see more pictures if you have them and more info re your boats specs!


-- Edited by Delia Rosa on Thursday 29th of September 2011 04:02:18 PM

Right, it is the 3 cabin layout with stairs down to the master instead of stairs up to the fly bridge.* I'll post some pictures when I have time.

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"stairs down to the master instead of stairs up to the fly bridge"

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that's interesting..... sounds like no two Sea Rangers are the same ... from our pilothouse we have a set of stairs going down to the three cabins and another staircase going up to the flybridge....

looking forward to your pictures!

This brochure is the only info or original ad that I can find on the history of the C & L Sea Ranger. *

These are a few photos of our Sea Ranger.







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There was a Sea Ranger "fixer upper" for sale in Seattle a couple of years ago that I went and looked through. It was the same hull and deck as Delia Rosa, but the flybridge was set back, behind the PH roof, and the space under the pilot house was the engine room. It was powered by a pair of Volvo TAMD40s, @ 165 hp each. The ask then was under $100k, but I considered that to be double what it was then worth. It is no longer on the market.

I also looked at a Sea ranger 50, that was a 47 with a stretch. The Flybridge was behind the pilot house roof, not on top of it. There were a number of 47s that were stretched to 49, 50 and 51. All of the extra space was in the cockpit area, and made it a nice lounging area. Some had the roof extended too.

I read in a piece on the history of the Ocean Alex (recent PMM article?), that one of the founders was Alexander Chieu. An early (1998) PMM article on Trawlers from Taiwan mentioned C & L. I don't think there was an Alexander Lee moving from C&L to OA.

My C & L 44 was started earlier, at east the hull No ends in 78, but the first owner didn't get it delivered to Vancouver until March of 1980. The only build issues I have encountered are the sliding windows, which tend to leak into the plywood below the sill. At age 31, I am about to repair the last two. The first failures were evident when I bought her in 1994. The stained veneer below the repaired windows in the main cabin are now hidden behind new sheets of 1/4 teak that look like they belong.

I remember seeing a couple of Sea Ranger 45's with the raised pilothouse and the set back flybridge that you mention. *One was on the west coast and one that we actually looked at in Florida. *They both had a huge area under the pilothouse for the engine room and consequently, only had two cabins - the master vee forward and one on the port or starbord side, I can't quite remember. *

We eventually purchased our 47 which has the three berth layout, the master being under the pilot house. *I have never seen a 47 with the set back flybridge.... I wish I could find more owners to see the various configurations! *I have not seen any two alike so far...

As to pricing, ours was in reasonably good shape, merritting a higher price.... others perhaps not. *We have had a few issues with the teak lifting at a couple of seams, and although the source of the problem has been fixed, we haven't yet done the teak repair... did you have any lifting seams that you needed to repair before you covered over the stained teak? *I would love to see and hear more about the repairs you have done.

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If you search my earlier posts you will find my swimgrid extension, from about 21 in deep to 34".

I have recently redone the galley counters with granite, added quilted Stainless panelling behind the diesel stove and flat SS on the fridge.

The windows, I removed the inside frame, then the track and glass, cleaned out the wet wood, repacing as needed, but making sure there was no exposed plywood, covered with epoxy, then new tracks and put it all back together. The wet veneer is never going to come back, and knowing that, I destroyed the stained parts, to get behind it to the wet plywood and make sure it was all gone. Then, due to the now uneven surface, a sheet of 1/4 in teak over the whole piece, from the floor (Port side, saloon) or shelf (Stb side, saloon) or edging (bedroom, port side). I haven't done the head or Stb side, bedroom, but hope to soon. Getting the cut of the top of the replacement teak to fit tight to the frame around the window was the biggest challenge.

Sea Ranger for sale?

Ahoy;
We have a 47' se arnger as well and need to sell her. Would you know of anyone that would want a good boat??
Kurt and Jill
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Delia Rosa said:

Thanks John for the compliment to "Delia Rosa".
We have only owned her for a couple of years and are still in the process of addressing some of her "flaws" (she is an older lady, built in 1985), but we have really enjoyed cruising on her. We had a wonderful trip bringing her home from New Hampshire where we purchased her.... down the Atlantic coast to New York, then up the Hudson and through the New York Canal system to Lake Ontario. We are Canadian but we keep her in Wilson New York (on Lake Ontario) during the summer.
She makes a great cruiser as well as a comfortable live aboard!

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Ahoy;
We have a 47' se arnger as well and need to sell her. Would you know of anyone that would want a good boat??
Kurt and Jill
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We admired your boat for sale when we bought our "Fu Hwa" in January, the west coast/east coast problem kept us from looking further. We lucked out, love our girl, thank god for a crappy economy we got her for a lovely price. Like the Sea Ranger that began the thread, she was clean, well kept and suited us in every way. After months of late night surfing "boat porn" I can't seem to stop but find there is no other boat out there that suits me more. For every pot there is a lid my mother always said and China Doll will find her mate.

sea ranger 51

i am the process of buying a 1984 searanger 51 in greece
i am looking forward it cruising with her
ivor

Delia Rosa said:

Hi John,

I have had no success in my efforts to contact any other owners of C & L Sea Rangers. I have private messaged the two owners of Sea Rangers that I found listed on Trawler Forum with no success. Do you know of any other forums that might help me find other owners of this trawler. I know that there don't seem to be too many out there, but there must be some kind of historical site that one could access. We love our trawler and it would just be great to be in touch with other owners!

regards,

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chefivor said:

i am the process of buying a 1984 searanger 51 in greece
i am looking forward it cruising with her
ivor

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I hope everything goes well... and keep in touch! I'd love to see pictures when you can.

Any of you Sea Ranger owners that would know of some one looking for a nice trawler, we are trying to sell our 47' Pilothouse Sea Ranger, 1980 model.
We are stuck in San Diego, and can't get back up north for a while. Any help would be great.
her site is searanger47.com
Regrads, Kurt and Jill

dc, love your boat. We have a cockpit, which we love but gave up some space on a 42, never saw a boat yet that mad me say hmmmmmm like yours... love it enjoy

This is our C&L Marine or C-kip.



From the brochure posted on this thread I think it is a "Sea Ranger Great Cabin"

Waterline Length is 14.3m and has twin Ford Sabres 120s

austingm said:

This is our C&L Marine or C-kip.


From the brochure posted on this thread I think it is a "Sea Ranger Great Cabin"

Waterline Length is 14.3m and has twin Ford Sabres 120s

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MALTA! Great to have you, Austingm. Good looking boat. Please tell us more about Malta and your cruising.

Searanger 51 1984

Hi There
Just brought this searanger 51 in greece.