Island Gypsy News

Thought this may be of some interest

Scotta,* It is interesting to me.* Where did you find this?

I like the explaination of the company Logo.

Also owning a 1983 32' sedan, I do not see where they could have lost two feet to produce the 30' model?* How could the price point been worth it?

Lots of models I did not know about, like to see a 36 and 44 extended bridge someday.

Thanks for posting!* JohnP


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I'm with JohnP....where did you find it? :jawdrop:

So there is an IG 30. There is an IG sedan in our harbor that the owner says is a 32 but every time I look at it I swear its shorter than our 32 Europa. His ID plate on the transom does not have any reference to length, as ours does. Anybody know of a way to ID a 30 vs a 32, short of sneaking over to the other boat with a tape measure?

dwhatty wrote:
So there is an IG 30. There is an IG sedan in our harbor that the owner says is a 32 but every time I look at it I swear its shorter than our 32 Europa. His ID plate on the transom does not have any reference to length, as ours does. Anybody know of a way to ID a 30 vs a 32, short of sneaking over to the other boat with a tape measure?

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*From a good vantage point, find the distance off with a range finder.* Measure the angle to the highest point of the boat with a transit.* then solve for the right angle leg of the triangle.* Take a picture of the boat from the same angle.* Make a scale measuring from the waterline to the highest point of the boat.* Use that scale to measure the length.* To check it, pull your boat alongside and see if it is longer.* Note: a dark hull on a boat will make it appear much larger.

Moonstruck wrote:dwhatty wrote:
So there is an IG 30. There is an IG sedan in our harbor that the owner says is a 32 but every time I look at it I swear its shorter than our 32 Europa. His ID plate on the transom does not have any reference to length, as ours does. Anybody know of a way to ID a 30 vs a 32, short of sneaking over to the other boat with a tape measure?

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*From a good vantage point, find the distance off with a range finder.* Measure the angle to the highest point of the boat with a transit.* then solve for the right angle leg of the triangle.* Take a picture of the boat from the same angle.* Make a scale measuring from the waterline to the highest point of the boat.* Use that scale to measure the length.* To check it, pull your boat alongside and see if it is longer.* Note: a dark hull on a boat will make it appear much larger.

Am not that curious and am a bit mathematically challenged. Come here and charter a boat out of Buck's Harbor and do it for me please. Payment will promptly be made in consumable alcohol of your choice.

Just answered my own question, I think. Looked her up by name on a documented vessel list and she has this hull #: BWQ32073C787 (which is not the # on the little plate on the transom). So she appears to indeed be 32' built in 1987, but what yard is BW or BWQ?

JohnP wrote:*I do not see where they could have lost two feet to produce the 30' model?*

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*I suppose it's possible as Mark Hardy (Beluga) in Hong Kong had his Gourmet Cruiser built as the first 34.

dwhatty wrote:
Am not that curious and am a bit mathematically challenged. Come here and charter a boat out of Buck's Harbor and do it for me please. Payment will promptly be made in consumable alcohol of your choice.

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*Thanks, planning on doing that.* Just don't know when.* Don't lock the liquor cabinet!

Moonstruck wrote:dwhatty wrote:
Am not that curious and am a bit mathematically challenged. Come here and charter a boat out of Buck's Harbor and do it for me please. Payment will promptly be made in consumable alcohol of your choice.

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*Thanks, planning on doing that.* Just don't know when.* Don't lock the liquor cabinet!

The liquor cabinet is never, ever locked (although my wife has been suggesting lately that maybe it should be).* But some things are sacrosanct.

The 30 vs the 32?

When I add up the lenght of the berths and settees and the space for your knees at the helm--- The only place they could have reduced would have been in the head and on*the aft deck. Still does not seem worth the effort because all systems and cabinetry would be the same and I can't imagine the price could have been much less.

JohnP**********

Besides the paper work, the only way I know my boat is a 32 are the numbers on the builders plate.

IG*** 32-25********** The 32 is circled in white.* The 25 is the 25th hull built.

JohnP


-- Edited by JohnP on Sunday 21st of August 2011 06:12:43 PM

Hi,

I got this newsletter from Halversons at Bobbin Head Turramurra as i used to work there as a kid, i will post the inside pages

I have lots of photos of the Island Gypsys in the*early eightys,but still looking for them,*they would sell*at least one every month, i loved the smell of the fresh teak and fibreglass, sometimes i would help to handover to the new owner.*

An Island gypsy 30 was about $ 80 000.00 in the eightys about the price of a*modest family home, and a 32 was about $ 100 about 2 family cars above the 30, an IG 44 flush aft deck was about $ 250.

Regards Scott*

Scott,* You may have an answer to a question that has bugged me since I got my IG32.

Most boats have a hull number etched in the glass on the upper starboard side of the transom.

Often a surveyor will make a tracing and photo copy it and attach it to the survey.

My IG has a teak overlay on the transom all the way up to the caprail.* There is no such number on my transom.

My boat was probably painted more than once and someone could have covered the numbers.

Bottom line is I can not find one and do not know where to look.

I have a number in the owners manual and on the documents but can not find one on the boat.

Since lots of IGs from the early eightys had teak transoms, is their another place they molded in the hull number?

Or did they just cover it with the teak?

Hope you know the answer and I can find it or stop looking.

Thanks JohnP

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-- Edited by JohnP on Monday 29th of August 2011 05:59:33 AM

Hi John,
Unfortunally I cannot answer your question.
I do know that until the early 90s in Australia there was no requirement to show the hull number or (VIN) on the transom of the boat, identification was found on the builders plate, in line with earlier timber boats manufactured in Australia by the Halvorsens.
I dont know what the requirements were for earlier US produced craft.
Some likely positions could be on the starboard side, within 1 foot of the transom, most likely near the caprail, but anywhere down to the waterline if the transom is covered in teak, or on the engine stringers, most likely near the engine.
Regards Scott

*Scott The mystery continues..** Thanks for your input.* John

John P. my 1988 36IG has no number on the transom either. I have a hull number glassed in the starboard side.
I love the pictures of the various IG. Love to get hold of some in high resolution for my trawler scrap book.

I have come across a review of the IG 30.There were three versions apparently.The sedan, the aft cabin & the Florida widebody.(no walk around decks aft of the starboard transom door)

Sorry at the moment I can't post the article, but will do so when I can get hold of a scanner.The article is in volume two of 'Island Gypsy News' the Kong & Halvorsen in house news letter,"for distribution free of charge to owners of Island gypsy boats throughout the world". No date but looks to be circa 1979.

The review is by one 'Dex Hart', from Ft Lauderdale, there's a salty name for you.According to Dex, the sedan was all glass, the other two were glass hulls with wooden uppers.The articles notes the IG line is 30',36' & 44' in glass with 50,57,65 & 80' built from wood. There were no 32' IG's mentioned.

That would be one interesting article and worth reading. How does one subscribe to the Kong & Halverson newsletter. Does anyone have some copies kicking around. I'd be glad to scan a nd post them.

I have only one copy, came with the boat. Will put it up in the next couple of days.

sunvale said:

That would be one interesting article and worth reading. How does one subscribe to the Kong & Halverson newsletter. Does anyone have some copies kicking around. I'd be glad to scan a nd post them.

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I don`t think Kong & Halvorsen Marine Engineering Co Ltd. still exists,if it does I`d be keen to receive their Newsletter too. It was a partnership or joint venture between Halvorsen Boats of Australia and Joseph Kong of Hong Kong, to produce the Island Gypsy in various sizes in f/g and in timber. It seems the Halvorsen brand was revived at some point; Island Gypsy as a brand appears to have phased out in the 1990s in Australia. I`m not sure if the 2 brands existed contemporaneously, or if the situation differed between Australia and USA. Halvorsen Boats exists in a more modest way in Australia under a helpful Mark Halvorsen.
Marin has followed the brand and may know more, as may others; it would be good to hear from anyone with more information. I`m fortunate to have original K & H books for my IG. They are integrated to cover all models: fibreglass up to 44ft, wooden up to 80ft but lack the detail of "Workshop Manuals".
I saw recently a wooden 50,built around 1977,on the hard for major hull and deck repair after submerging. There may be timbers superior to Meranti for boat building, though it is an excellent substitute for the now rare Australian red cedar in furniture.Despite its plight it was/had been a magnificent vessel of beautiful proportions, fitout and accommodation, and was eventually relaunched with new engines, with decks and fitout to be completed. BruceK

pictures of Bimini

Does anyone have some pictures of full enclosures of Bimini tops on an IG. I want to have my canvas replaced and would like some idea as to what I'm looking for.

My wife and I are looking at several 32's and would like to get some information from anyone that has glassed the decks and gotten rid of the teak.

Leanbh Cailin said:

My wife and I are looking at several 32's and would like to get some information from anyone that has glassed the decks and gotten rid of the teak.

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The newer model IG32's don't have teak decks. I don't know from what year on, but at least from 2000/2001. Ours certainly doesn't.

Leanbh Cailin said:

My wife and I are looking at several 32's and would like to get some information from anyone that has glassed the decks and gotten rid of the teak.

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I did it late 2012, on an IG 36, a major costly job, whatever you replace it with, mine took 7 weeks. Not sure what you want to know but suggest you start by looking at the thread <IG Teak Decks>. Main motivation is fixing leaks. Sometimes recaulking and replugging may be enough, but on older boats most likely not.
Be prepared for substrate repairs. The teak is partly decorative/cosmetic, the real deck in the form, most likely, of a fiberglass-teak block-fiberglass sandwich, with every chance of rot in the teak. I was lucky,I had foam sandwich decks, unheard of on IGs. You may get a quote for the deck,but not for the hidden substrate defects. I held my decision on paint or teak or combination until the defects were revealed.
You decide what to replace it with, more teak or painted non slip, the latter is much cheaper and faster, but you lose some character and it gets hot underfoot. Mine is a combination,now a popular choice.
Where you select paint finish you need 2 layers of fiberglass to replace the teak, but one layer for new teak. The surface will likely need a lot of fairing and leveling. Being thinner than teak affects things on or adjacent to the deck, eg you replace the piano hinging on the aft lazarette hatches with recessed hinges, and fit feet under the flybridge steps. New teak is commonly thinner than old teak.

Sunvale, somewhere (I can`t find it now) you asked about fuel tank rust defects. My starboard tank had a rust hole adjacent to the filler tube. The rust was treated and the area epoxied with fibreglass mat over the defect.
My bimini looks like yours, but I think you want to enclose the area in clears. Get a couple of quotes and talk it through with the guy, be there when he inspects it to talk through the best way.You could consider with replacing the existing top a fixed f/g solid roof section.

Laminating schedule Island Gipsy 36

Does anyone posses the laminating schedule of the Island Gipsy 36 build in 1995?
I am busy with an (severe) osmose treatment on a hull and not sure about the original lay-up.

Can't help with the question ... but this is not just a boat pox (osmosis blisters), it's the next stage, a full blown delamination. Looks bad ... good luck!

Was trying to be diplomatic

You could try Mark Halvorsen in Sydney Australia. If he can`t help he may be able to put you in contact with the designer Harvey Halvorsen.
Email: mark@halvorsenboatsales.com.au

Looks like somebody glassed a wood boat and didn't prep. Can't imagine an original layup doing that.

Ataraxia,
Gon'na tell us about your PL?