Sea Ranger 47

Delia Rosa · Jan 21, 2011

We currently own a Sea Ranger 47, raised pilot house trawler. *We would love to find out some of the history of this make of Taiwanese trawler and get in touch with any other owners...

Baker · Jan 21, 2011

Very nice boat!!!

Delia Rosa · Jan 21, 2011

Thanks John for the compliment to "Delia Rosa".
We have only owned her for a couple of years and are still in the process of addressing some of her "flaws" (she is an older lady, built in 1985), but we have really enjoyed cruising on her. We had a wonderful trip bringing her home from New Hampshire where we purchased her.... down the Atlantic coast to New York, then up the Hudson and through the New York Canal system to Lake Ontario. We are Canadian but we keep her in Wilson New York (on Lake Ontario) during the summer.
She makes a great cruiser as well as a comfortable live aboard!

Delia Rosa · Jan 21, 2011

Just wanted to mention that I have been reading through a lot of the older posts and have actually managed to find two other Sea Ranger 47's. Both appear to be out on the west coast. I have messaged both of them, so who knows, if they are still owners, they might message me back... here's hoping!

coyote454 · Jan 28, 2011

Susan, Delia Rosa is indeed a beautiful boat. My little ship hopes to be as beautiful as yours when she grows up!

Best of luck in finding other similar trawlers. *There are bound to be some here about on this forum.

Mike
Brookings, Oregon

Delia Rosa · Jan 29, 2011

Thanks Mike for the compliment... We were very lucky to find Delia Rosa.. I am not sure how many C & L *Sea Rangers were built, but there don't seem to be too many around - at least not on the Atlantic coast!

Baker · Jan 31, 2011

Maybe not. generally, the Taiwanese boats are designed and imported by somebody in the states. Depending on what coast that "Somebody" is, that is where the boats ended up. Boats like the Ponderosa....They are still CHB built boats but they were imported by whoever Poderosa is and it is difficult to find a Ponderosa on any other coast....that is just an example. The Roughwater would be another....Ed Monk designed and they landed on the West Coast.

I am not sure where the C&L Sea Rangers landed, but I am thinking they are a West Coast boat.

Delia Rosa · Jan 31, 2011

I think you are right.... there certainly seem to be more on the west coast anyway... we actually almost bought one from the west coast but decided we weren't experienced enough to bring the boat down and through the Panama canal and then back up to Lake Ontario. *And shipping costs were upwards of $40,000... way too much for us. *So we kept looking and finally found our PH version in New Hampshire... the only 47 I've ever seen on the east coast. *(there was actually a 45 we found in Florida but she surveyed very badly so we let her go)

Delia Rosa · Feb 16, 2011

Hi John,

I have had no success in my efforts to contact any other owners of C & L Sea Rangers. I have private messaged the two owners of Sea Rangers that I found listed on Trawler Forum with no success. Do you know of any other forums that might help me find other owners of this trawler. I know that there don't seem to be too many out there, but there must be some kind of historical site that one could access. We love our trawler and it would just be great to be in touch with other owners!

regards,

markpierce · Feb 16, 2011

Raised pilothouses are the way to go.* What helmsman doesn't want to see ahead/around?

dcboater · Feb 27, 2011

Finally have been able to have a chance to subscribe to this seemingly wonderful forum. I am the very proud owner of a 1989 52' C&L Sea Ranger Cockpit Trawler with twin Cummins 6BTA 5.9s and a Westerbeke 8 kw. I purchased her in Annapolis MD late in 2009 and last year, when my personal plans changed, I took her (with a two man crew) from Annapolis to my home in Tennessee at the top of the TN/Tombigbee waterway (not land-locked).

Although she was a tad larger in LOA than I had originally planned for (I am a single man w/o family), I was incredibly impressed with her build quality, hardware, and of course the teak interior - most prevalent in the Taiwan makes. My boat was actually done up in the KING Yard - I have been told that in 1988, C&L changed yards - however, I do not know where the earlier models were built. I am impressed with every inch of this vessel thus far, bow to stern and mast to keel - and WOW, what a keel - she proved her worth on a night Gulf Crossing (small craft advisory) leaving Tarpon Springs and arriving 10 hours later in Applachicola after non-stop 8s and 10s on the BEAM. I can only say that I can think this boat can take a HECK of A LOT more than I CAN !!!

Another testament to this vessel is the previous owners (2 owner vessel) upkeep, open checkbook maintenance, and retaining and full documentation of EVERYTHING - a rare find to say the least. Before taking the "half loop", I loaded up on redundancies, including the normal and in addition fresh water pumps for the mains and gennie, and electronics as well.

She is a 2 stateroom (walk around queens in both), one office (converted from an upper/lower bunk stateroom)*, two full heads with walk in showers,**a massive salon and galley down with dinette, and an enormous aft deck*- I have attached pictures for all.

I hope this has helped open up further banter ragarding the C&L Sea Ranger lines (both left and right coasts) and I truly hope to be able to contribute to this board fully in any way that I can.

Regards,
dcboater (now in TN)

Carey · Feb 27, 2011

Welcome KeithGorgeous boat. I could live there.

We*look forward to hearing more about you and your boating adventures.

O C Diver · Feb 27, 2011

Very nice boat! That's my idea of a master stateroom!!!

Ted

dcboater · Feb 28, 2011

Thanks to all for the kind words

*- glad to be part of such a great forum! I have also left a private message to Delia Rosa - the starter of this thread - hopefully they will get back to me as well.

Regarding the master stateroom - yes, I love it - what is truly amazing is that the minimum headroom throughout the vessel is 6'8" - myself being 6'1" - I do adore that as well. My previous boat was a 1970 Alglas 43 FDMY - a great "bulldozer" type hull with classic lines (picture a 43 Hatteras FDMY), but as we all know, the earlier American hull designs did not accomodate anyone over 6'2" with a kind note... Either way, I lived and cruised on her for 7 years - before moving to the DC area and being "boatless" (a richer man in the hip pocket alone) and concentrating on making my mark on the HealthCare administration efforts from 1999 to 2010.

Well - enough personal stuff. Before purchase, I had a full survey and independent diesel inspection done up in the Annapolis area and I can recommend great folks if anyone ever needs them - also, had major work done at Zahnhisers yard in Solomons Island over the winter months of 2009 - 2010 before the "half loop" - I simply cannot say enough good things about Craig and his staff at that yard - simply amazing, honest, artisans, experts in every class and always on time and under budget - at least with me.

I'm attaching a few pics of her on the hard so you can see her keel - as stated before, she REALLY saved me and my crew in the roughest Gulf Crossing I've personally been through. Not to mention her flybridge helm which is uncommonly set way abaft of the windshield and slightly to starboard - makes for a very dry "sleigh ride" in rough seas. I'll post pictures of the bridge next time.

I look forward to contributing - please feel free to ask questions - I'll do my very best to assist in any way possible.

Thanks again,
dcboater

dcboater · Feb 28, 2011

Everyone - my sincere apologies - I didn't realize that there was a thread under the General Discussion tree where we were to post pictures - I will do so soon. I need to get some newer pictures of my lady anyway !!!

Thanks again,
dcboater

Peter B · Feb 28, 2011

dcboater wrote:

I am the very proud owner of a 1989 52' C&L Sea Ranger Cockpit Trawler with twin Cummins 6BTA 5.9s and a Westerbeke 8 kw.
Another testament to this vessel is the previous owners (2 owner vessel) upkeep, open checkbook maintenance, and retaining and full documentation of EVERYTHING - a rare find to say the least.

_________________________________________

Lovely vessel indeed.* In fact there is one for sale at our marina as we speak, and I had a good look last weekend.* I looked, lusted, then thought about the size of that checkbook to keep one going............sadly must pass on it.....there are some advantages to being single without family, (not a lot, but some), and finance is one of them.....

dcboater · Feb 28, 2011

Peter - thanks for the response - I must say that your CHB 34 is very nice indeed and Brisbane is a very fine area to be enjoying her in.

Do you mind telling me what the asking price was of the Sea Ranger in your marina, her condition and how equipped? I'm just curious - definately NOT wanting to look, but I'm sure I'm like everyone else, just always wanting a vote of confidence that I did well in my purchase

Thanks again,
dcboater

Peter B · Mar 1, 2011

dcboater wrote:

Peter - thanks for the response - I must say that your CHB 34 is very nice indeed and Brisbane is a very fine area to be enjoying her in.

Do you mind telling me what the asking price was of the Sea Ranger in your marina, her condition and how equipped? I'm just curious - definately NOT wanting to look, but I'm sure I'm like everyone else, just always wanting a vote of confidence that I did well in my purchase

Thanks again,
dcboater

You're welcome DC.* Here, have a look for yourself.* Bearing in mind the $Aus is now at parity or a bit higher than the $US, prices would be comparable I think?

http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=8940774

PS.* Four brokers have the same vessel listed 3 at the same price, $348k, one for $375k

*

-- Edited by Peter B on Tuesday 1st of March 2011 07:13:28 AM

dcboater · Mar 1, 2011

In that case - I'm VERY VERY VERY pleased to say the least. Especially since mine is a 52, basically a 47 like the one in your marina with a cockpit. I adore the cockpit feature, not only for convenience (especially with the full size slider door to the aft stateroom) but as it tends to add a more slender stern to the aft of the hull - it just seems to track so much better than I remember of any other vessels I have piloted.

Hell, if I can go through crab-pots in the Chesapeake with simple +1 or +2 on the Simrad Autopilot and she turns on a dime, that is my idea of tracking - not to mention how much better she seems to ride in a following sea like - I think I am in LOVE !!!!!

Hopefully my first 18 months will her will be the same as the next 18 years

Thanks again for all the feedback.

dcboater

Delia Rosa · Mar 2, 2011

dcboater wrote:
I'm attaching a few pics of her on the hard so you can see her keel - as stated before, she REALLY saved me and my crew in the roughest Gulf Crossing I've personally been through.

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I know what you mean about a good keel and rough seas... our Sea Ranger can take a lot more than we can too! *Here a a few shots of our keel...

JohnP · Mar 2, 2011

Delia Rosa wrote:

dcboater wrote:
I'm attaching a few pics of her on the hard so you can see her keel - as stated before, she REALLY saved me and my crew in the roughest Gulf Crossing I've personally been through.

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I know what you mean about a good keel and rough seas... our Sea Ranger can take a lot more than we can too! *Here a a few shots of our keel...

******************* Okay-- I now have my new official "Dream Boat".*** Yes twin screw and all.

*******************Very Nice!!!!*** JohnP

*

Delia Rosa · Mar 2, 2011

And John P.... because we were new to trawlers and less experienced with a cruiser this size, we installed both a bow thruster and stern thruster... makes docking a breeze!

JohnP · Mar 2, 2011

I noticed the stern thruster.* I did say "Dream Boat".

JohnP

Delia Rosa · Mar 2, 2011

She's our dream boat too.... but we need to get her in the water..... please no more snow up here on Lake Ontario!!

Peter B · Mar 3, 2011

dcboater wrote:

In that case - I'm VERY VERY VERY pleased to say the least. Especially since mine is a 52, basically a 47 like the one in your marina with a cockpit. I adore the cockpit feature, not only for convenience (especially with the full size slider door to the aft stateroom) but as it tends to add a more slender stern to the aft of the hull - it just seems to track so much better than I remember of any other vessels I have piloted.
- I think I am in LOVE !!!!!

dcboater, I think I would be right that you got your boat for considerably less than $348k, as the boat market over there was depressed by the global financial thingy, and you have more similar vessels on the market at any one time, anyway.* Whereas we were not so affected, and have less to choose from as well.* I would guess, ball park figure, you got yours for about 1/2 to at most 2/3 of that, would I be close...?
And yes, if I was you, I'd be in love also, as they are really nice vessels.* I agree about the added bonus of not only having a large aft cabin, but a lower level aft cockpit as well.* Talk about having your cake and eating it too.....

-- Edited by Peter B on Thursday 3rd of March 2011 07:14:19 AM

Delia Rosa · Mar 3, 2011

Carl,The stern thruster operates on the original house batteries. * The bow thruster needed a new dedicated *battery which was installed in the bow of the boat. *It was a pretty tight fit!

Polaris · Jun 15, 2011

Susan & Dan,

Congratulations on your purchase. You've got a nice vessel there.

I purchased a 1982 39' Sea Ranger Sundeck last year in Bar Harbor, and though it was a little neglected, motored down to Newport, RI without incident.

I have been fixing numerous leaks and plugging holes PO's added over the years but have been pleasantly surprised how ruggedly built the vessel is. For instance, I replaced the main engine thru-hulls and measured the hull at a solid 1" thick. The boat is cored with 1/2" plywood.

You are correct though about the scarcity of information on the C&L line. A google search reveals a 2008 PowerBoat Guide By Ed McKnew with descriptions of the C&L line.

A partial quote from the guide:

"Built in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, by C&L Marine (a well-known builder of production and semi-custom yachts), Sea Rangers enjoyed a good deal of popularity during the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s, thanks to their affordable prices and rugged construction. (Note that Sea Ranger models are often referred to as C&L's) The company built a wide range of boats over the years including a number of trawler-style designs as well as traditional double cabin, pilothouse, and motoryacht models."

Hope this helps.

Alan Basilica
M/V Polaris

Delia Rosa · Jun 15, 2011

Thanks Alan for the info.. I wish there was more info out there. *I'd love to know how many of each type of Sea Ranger were built over the years and where our trawler fits in the equation. *

Your Sea Ranger looks great... I've only seen the Sundeck version in pictures, but I bet she is quite comfortable. *

akuna · Jul 7, 2011

Hi Delia Rosa and the other Sea Ranger owners.* You can add us to the list of owners as we have a 1979 55 flush deck.* We bought it in Liverpool, England 16 years ago and took it down to Portugal for an interior refit to undo some of the late seventies interior design nighmares!* Since then we have cruised the Med extensively and are now based in Kos, Greece.* Like others, we have had trouble getting history about C&L Marine.* I do have an original brochure for the raised pilothouse version of*the 55 which shows that the naval architect was Herb David.* As far as I know, C&L Marine closed in the very early 80's and any Sea Rangers built after this date were from other Taiwanese yards such as King.* I belive that one of the C&L managers went on to form Ocean Alexander.* Considering when and where these boats were*made I think the build quality is good.* Other than teak decks leaking through the screw holes we have had no structural problems.* All of the original mechnical equipment was good quality American or European brands and although we have continually upgraded the boat we are still utilizing much of the original equipment.* In all our years of cruising we have only encountered a few other Sea Rangers.* A sistership out ours is currently for sale in Spain and another in Australia.* When you consider that they are selling for*less than 1/5th *of the list price of some new trawlers they make excellent buying.* If well looked after there is no reason why they cannot be cruised for years to come......at least that is what we plan to do!

-- Edited by akuna on Thursday 7th of July 2011 07:09:08 AM

Delia Rosa · Jul 7, 2011

Welcome Akuna! *As you mention, *there aren't too many Sea Ranger's out there, so I am glad to hear about your trawler. *

I noticed your website in your profile details and have started to read your blogs. *I wasn't able to access the photo or video gallery ... I would love to see pictures of the refit that you did. *

regards

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