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Looking for some good options for trawler training in the Tampa St.Pete, FL area. Prefer one on one with a capt experienced with single engine trawlers. I'll provide the boat.

I've checked out a few local schools, and fine for the classroom stuff. Also, have a few good instructor, but not local.

Also, asking around from brokers, fishermen, charter captains, etc.

Ideas or recommendations?
 
I would not limit your search to power schools. One of the best small boat handling instructors I ever found was in a sailing school. He was magic with single prop sailboats in current, wind, and tight slips.
 
I have a friend in the area who's an experienced captain and helped me bring my boat over to St. Pete from Cocoa. PM me and I'll give you info.
 
We have done two training sessions. The first one was at Anacortes Yacht Charters here in Washington State. They have many weekend training courses on many different types of boats. We did a single screw trawler.

The second time was with a paid training capt. that came to our boat for the weekend and ran us through every part of our boat and then on the water training with me and my wife. He flys all over the US and Canada doing this work. Although, if he flys to you, you pay for his tickets and hotel... He is local to us. We found him at the Seattle boat show and really liked him. If you want his information, PM me and I will share it.

Honestly, both training weekends were WELL worth the money spent for both my wife and I. I have boated my entire life and learned a lot from both instructors.
 
I would really suggest to try and skip formal schools at first and just hire a captain recommended by someone in your marina for an afternoon. Bess and I paid a guy our broker reco'd $100 for a solid afternoon of goofing around on the river and it was plenty to get us going. Once you get the ball rolling with the basic concepts, it really is just a matter of experience and getting your muscle memory all trained up. No amount of training replaces that :)
 
$100 for an afternoon is pretty good.....

I would expect more like $200 -$300 per half day if the guy to totally indendent from a purchase deal.
 
Local broker referred us to local shipwright/delivery skipper. He spent 2-3 hours with us getting a docking system working, cost $60. Absolute bargain.
 
$100 for an afternoon is pretty good.....

I would expect more like $200 -$300 per half day if the guy to totally indendent from a purchase deal.

I would expect a minimum of $300 but more like $350-400 for an entire day.
 
I had a 24ft. Sea Ray Sundancer before I got the trawler. I was totally terrified to drive it. The first time I took it out, I had a captain no charge. A friend of a friend. He just wanted to spend a day on the water. He is in between boats.

Much to my shock, it is actually easier to drive the trawler than it was to drive the Sea Ray. The hard part for me was all the power systems, bow thrusters, etc. to learn. I'm getting the hang of not too much dock slamming anymore! I think that's an art! LOL!

Love the St. Petes area. I work mainly in Tampa. I'm sure you can get a dozen or so captains around there. Interview a few.
 
Absolutely....but half days are usually way more than half a full day as it is tough to fit 2 jobs in one day unless at the same marina and or town.
 
Look up Captain Chris in Florida
 
I would really suggest to try and skip formal schools at first and just hire a captain recommended by someone in your marina for an afternoon. Bess and I paid a guy our broker reco'd $100 for a solid afternoon of goofing around on the river and it was plenty to get us going. Once you get the ball rolling with the basic concepts, it really is just a matter of experience and getting your muscle memory all trained up. No amount of training replaces that :)

:thumb::thumb: very good advice
 
I would expect a minimum of $300 but more like $350-400 for an entire day.

Band,

$400 a day would be dirt cheap for a good instructor. I'd be glad to pay double that, but I want the best. Someone who not only know, but knows how to teach, and teach my Admiral. If she can run the boat, life will be good.
 
I had a 24ft. Sea Ray Sundancer before I got the trawler. I was totally terrified to drive it. The first time I took it out, I had a captain no charge. A friend of a friend. He just wanted to spend a day on the water. He is in between boats.

Much to my shock, it is actually easier to drive the trawler than it was to drive the Sea Ray. The hard part for me was all the power systems, bow thrusters, etc. to learn. I'm getting the hang of not too much dock slamming anymore! I think that's an art! LOL!

Love the St. Petes area. I work mainly in Tampa. I'm sure you can get a dozen or so captains around there. Interview a few.

Donna,

If you know one, let me know. I've had several that "have had time on a boat", "have a captains license", "know how to teach" etc. I really want someone that has the experience, knows the boat and knows how to teach. Not easy to find. But let me know if you know one.
 
I would really suggest to try and skip formal schools at first and just hire a captain recommended by someone in your marina for an afternoon. Bess and I paid a guy our broker reco'd $100 for a solid afternoon of goofing around on the river and it was plenty to get us going. Once you get the ball rolling with the basic concepts, it really is just a matter of experience and getting your muscle memory all trained up. No amount of training replaces that :)

Good advise. I really have a pretty good handle on the basics, but want a bit more. Dealing with strong winds and currents, in close quarters. Fine tuning, and knowing when it just won't work.
 
Good that you recognize that many are not that good, even with recommendations from boaters that have limited experience with training captains.
 
Get in touch with Captain Chris and Alyse they are awesome! We spent three days with them and they are great teachers!

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Very much in agreement with using Captain Chris (Caldwell) and his wife Alyse out of Vero Beach on the east coast of Florida. Had them out several times as well as taken one of Chris's Boat Systems courses. Course was great and on the water my wife learned as much from Alyse as I did from Chris. Not much about boats and boat handling he (and she) doesn't know. Unassuming, pleasant couple to be around. I will say that getting him scheduled can be a challenge as they are busy. Tried to get them for a day or two over the next few weeks and they are gone delivering and training for the next month. No association, just happy customers.
 
Experience is important but knowing HOW to teach us more important.
 
I like the idea of a couple teaching as we had a husband and wife captain team training us. One thing I'd suggest too is to do some training in less than ideal conditions. You learn the boat's capability is more than you knew and, hopefully, your capability is as well. Better to learn with pros than to face it the first time lacking confidence.
 
I like the idea of a couple teaching as we had a husband and wife captain team training us. One thing I'd suggest too is to do some training in less than ideal conditions. You learn the boat's capability is more than you knew and, hopefully, your capability is as well. Better to learn with pros than to face it the first time lacking confidence.

I like this idea too, as it's more focused training. An hour in crappy conditions is worth week's of winging it.

Also, although it is not conducive to everyone's schedule, both the teacher's and the learner's, extended learning is pretty much a waste of time.

A brain can only absorb so much and the overnight sleep is also critical to that learning. There is a reason schools have classes of one hour plus or minus.
 
I like the idea of a couple teaching as we had a husband and wife captain team training us. One thing I'd suggest too is to do some training in less than ideal conditions. You learn the boat's capability is more than you knew and, hopefully, your capability is as well. Better to learn with pros than to face it the first time lacking confidence.

Exellent advice, on taking out in less than ideal conditions. If you can put the boat on a t head,the day before, weather comes in. A lot easier to dock, than take out of a slip, with wind, current, to deal with.Just as soon, as you start to get some confidence, then you get the reality, of weather, when you have to come in. Some , never go out again, after a heavy weather docking experience.
 
I do not fondly remember my first boat, and with no lessons, managed docking by approaching at speed, turning the wheel and shifting to idle, and while the boat was in motion, jumping off the boat with dock line in hand.
This worked for awhile until approaching the front of a dock/restaurant, and with a full audience, I jumped out with bare feet, landed on a dock cleat and fell to the deck, while the boat went on it's merry way. My ankle healed in six months.
After I had a lesson, I am properly shamed to this day.
 
I remember when I was about seven I would assist my Dad in docking. It was my job to stand on the forward side of the boat as my dad approached and jump off and secure the bow. Having done this many times I was a pro at the age of seven so I was balancing and not holding on as dad approached the dock. About four feet from the dock he decided he was coming in too fast and hit reverse hard. I ended up in the water holding on to the dock line. He had me swim to the stern so he could hoist me in but when he bent over his cigars fell out of his shirt pocket. He made me get each cigar before he pulled me in.

I thought my mother was going to kill him. LOL
 
I understand all the docking concern, but that's such a small part of what one needs to learn. What happens when you go out in 3-4' and soon it turns to 6-8' and you have to cross a bar or inlet back in? Are you prepared? Are you prepared to handle rough seas from any of the four directions? And learning not just to read your instruments but to read the water? Even soft groundings ruin many boaters days. Also, checks you should run every time before going out and those you should do while underway. Are you both prepared to replace the Racors while at sea? If you have twins, what happens if you lose one? Can you handle it still? Even basics such as when to call the tow company for help rather than waiting too long and when to call the CG and call Mayday. What about MOB?

Now there is a balance to avoid scaring newcomers. However, we found knowledge and confidence to greatly reduce an anxieties we might have otherwise had.

As to docking, we practiced for hours over many days while at sea with invisible docks, but learning how the boat handled at slow speed with wind and waves from all directions. Then at quiet docks. There you can learn simple things too like the difference in how your boat backs to port vs. starboard.

If you have a couple of professional trainers for three days or even more, you can mix these tougher parts in with the pleasure and easier and basics. You can enjoy each of you docking at a restaurant for lunch and just cruising up the ICW and back on the outside.

We also had challenges of working with instruments only, mimicking conditions with no visibility. While the trainers could see, all we had were our instruments. You're forced to get comfortable with radar. Then the reverse, working with no instruments.

Now, one caveat, before this I would suggest a basic course of some sort so that you know the language, know the markers, the basic rules of navigation and even know docking in theory. That way the on the water training proceeds far more quickly as you've got some knowledge.

Plus, if it's your boat you'll be learning on, you should know the instruments all very well in advance. Read the manuals, play with all the settings. All of this is to allow the training captain to be as efficient as possible. Talk to them about what they'd like you to learn beforehand.
 
All good points about different conditions, docking, maneuvering knowing the electronics and gauges.

Still looking for the instructor. Ideal would be someone that knows MY boat, and knows how to teach, besides knowing how to boat. Don't have that person, yet.

And for me, the main issue is docking and maneuvering in tight quarters. Yes, realize the other stuff is important, but second priority for now
 
The local boat brokerages all have that one magical person on staff who is the boat whisperer, someone who can move all and any of their boats in any condition. My brokerage had and old Coastie chief who was indeed a master mariner.
Call a few of your local shops, explain your situation, meet one or two, and barter for services.
 
The local boat brokerages all have that one magical person on staff who is the boat whisperer, someone who can move all and any of their boats in any condition. My brokerage had and old Coastie chief who was indeed a master mariner.
Call a few of your local shops, explain your situation, meet one or two, and barter for services.


Good ideas, I did a bit of that, but will do more.
 
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