Interesting boats

Hollywood and Bruce B,
The stick boat and the tub. Oh yes all the Willards resemble the other end of a bathtub and I don't like sailboats much but I'd like to have a stick on mine at times for a stabilizing sail. The 36 is the best looking Willard but thier proportions make them so tall and wide (hull wise) they resemble ships more than most boats ... kinda the opposite of a Fleming. But for the size of the boat the Willard probably much more seaworthy than a Fleming.

Yup .... I would never buy some Willards myself but I think all the displacement Willards have a hull beauty that puts them way up there visually. And to me the 40 is just so big .... But most here think big is great.

Nomad Willy said:

Hollywood and Bruce B,
The stick boat and the tub. Oh yes all the Willards resemble the other end of a bathtub and I don't like sailboats much but I'd like to have a stick on mine at times for a stabilizing sail. The 36 is the best looking Willard but thier proportions make them so tall and wide (hull wise) they resemble ships more than most boats ... kinda the opposite of a Fleming. But for the size of the boat the Willard probably much more seaworthy than a Fleming.

Yup .... I would never buy some Willards myself but I think all the displacement Willards have a hull beauty that puts them way up there visually. And to me the 40 is just so big .... But most here think big is great.

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Eric - Willard made planing hull?? Personally I like the mellow, easy-going look of Willard hulls and superstructures. Not my choice... but, nice for sure!

Norse classic 1950, 7.7x2.6x0.7m , pine/oak, mahogany, teak, stabiliser sail, (32k€)

http://www.boten.be/boten/Klassieke...OTHERSLouma/Merk-Type/Oplopend/pag1/#bigfotos

oldmarlin said:

Norse classic 1950, 7.7x2.6x0.7m , pine/oak, mahogany, teak, stabiliser sail, (32k€)

Fana Batbigery spitsgat kajuitsloep - www.boten.be - Klassieke boot Hout - Diesel

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Now, That IS a Classic!

But not a stabiliser sail.

Beautiful boat w fine ends. Probably very easily driven .... by about 5hp. One quarter of what Willy requires and basically the same size boat.

Nomad Willy said:

But not a stabiliser sail.

Beautiful boat w fine ends. Probably very easily driven .... by about 5hp. One quarter of what Willy requires and basically the same size boat.

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Yes she's with small Sole Mini 17 (16hp Mitsubishi 2 cyl.)
Looks like mizzen?

Mizzen mast of course. I was see'in a flag pole in the earlier pic.

I see the instruments are where they usually are on a sailboat.

Probably cruise speed ... with very minimal wake.
Any pics of her out of the water?

Engine in Willy is 4cyl 37hp. Bout two times yours.
Love these low powered vessels.

One of my canoes gets 4hp.

Eric, more photos out of the water there:
Fana Batbigery Spitsgat Kajuitsloep, Traditionelle Motorboot zum verkauf, Poelmans Road & Marine, YachtFocus

Wouldn't that mast be for a riding sail?

oldmarlin,
Wow that's the real deal. Could be called a fish form hull. The fwd end is fuller than aft. The opposite of my boat clearly. Very efficient. It would be hard for water to make a fuss going around this beautiful hull.
Owning a boat like this must be a bit like being grampa to Taylor Swift.
Thanks for posting.

What a beautiful boat! Is that a two blade prop?

78puget-trawler said:

Is that a two blade prop?

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Yes

Reminds me of the small Monterrey Clippers

I almost bought a Monty about 5 years ago. It was a toss up between one and the 26' motor whaleboat I did get. The Monty was the same length, with the basic same eng, wood of course, all in all in fair shape but needed a lot of wood work and all I could see was 3 months hauled out, so passed and got the glass whaleboat instead. I really do like the Monterey boats though and have a few neat books about them.

Cute little boat. Tad Roberts design.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/201...66294/Anacortes/WA/United-States#.V11u9vQ8KnM

cardude01 said:

Cute little boat. Tad Roberts design.

2011 Timbercoast (Bartender Boats) Motorsailer Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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Bartenders were designed by George Caulkins in lengths of: 19, 22, 26,
29 and 32 feet.
They may have been MODIFIED by other designers, I don't know.

Ted

Ahh, my apologies. I was just going by the description in the listing.

Here is more info on this Timbercoast model. Looks like Tad did design this model?

http://bartenderboats.com/product/22-timbercoast/

From Tad's website;

"'In shaping the hull of the TimberCoast 22 I kept the original Bartender form in mind but included additional criteria. While maintaining the seaworthiness of the older sibling, the new boat is to be more fuel efficient at low speed."

Timbercoast Troller 22, New Displacement Design for Bartender Boats ~ Small Boat Designs by Tad Roberts

Plans available from Bartender Boats here;

https://bartenderboats.com/product/22-timbercoast/

George Calkins's Bartenders are all high-speed planing hulls. My design for Bartender Boats, the Timbercoast Troller, is a low-speed (7 knot)full displacement hull, actually a mini-motorsailer. Bartender Boats, in seeking to diversify, has never been able to differentiate the two, in hindsight it was probably foolish to try.

TAD,
I agree.
However 7 knots is probably a bit fast for the TT.

"Alpine Sea"

Dimensions
LOA: 22 ft 0 in
Beam: 7 ft 4 in
Dry Weight: 4000 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 29 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Kubota
Year Built: 2011
Engine Model: Nanni N3.30
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 825
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 29 HP

Cruising Speed: 5 knots @ 2000 RPM
Maximum Speed: 7 knots

There is a reduction gear, approximately 2.5:1, and the 3-blade prop is approximately 17" x 13".

Quite interesting small motor-sailer, I like. Should she be closer...
Don't know for you, always sad when owner sells... much emotion invested in a design project...

Tad Roberts said:

"Alpine Sea"


Engines
Total Power: 29 HP

Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive

Cruising Speed: 5 knots @ 2000 RPM
Maximum Speed: 7 knots

There is a reduction gear, approximately 2.5:1, and the 3-blade prop is approximately 17" x 13".

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NMPG - At 5 knt cruise?

Art said:

NMPG - At 5 knt cruise?

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The owner reported after his first 300 mile cruise that he had used 25 usg of fuel, (about 12 mpg). Which supports my preliminary numbers below.

Man, that is one sweet little ship. So well done too.

healhustler said:

Man, that is one sweet little ship. So well done too.

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That's it's main drawback Larry, it's really quite small. Ideal for one person longer term, fine for two for a day trip, tight for two over the longer term. A 26-28' version would be better for two people.

The Timbercoast is in Anacortes at North Harbor Yacht Sales. It's cute, it is smaller than I thought it'd be. 5kt cruise speed, better bring a book.

Motor sailer?

Came across this in Yachtworld today and I am kind of liking it. Too bad its on the left coast.

Here's the link: 1983 Colvic Watson Pilothouse Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

That's a cool boat.

Not sure how it makes it around the world with that 260 gallon fuel tank however.

Donsan,
I looked at one several years ago. Great boat but the one I was looking at had no afterdeck ... much like a sundeck.

Dude,
They are very efficient and may have as little as 3hp per ton. This is no SD hull but a deep and heavy FD design. I think the one I looked at had an 80hp JD. Like Mark's boat but much larger.