Rustybarge
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hollywood8118
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- " OTTER "
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- Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Not a Mercedes... but in the tiny models:
https://fr.boats.com/bateaux-a-moteur/2013-tacar-boats-tacar-mini-trawler-840-5613478/#.V0iWIeRWKpo
It would make a cute dinghy!
HOLLYWOOD
healhustler
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- Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
What a sweetheart. I could even see Janice making Seaweed II out of that one.
Adding lounge instead of MiniTrawler's cockpit, for liveaboard?
Look at the dinette: dangerous when you leave front seat! no escape-hatch in bow-berth...
Mini TrawlerÂ*Â*8.40Â*::: Yachtopolis.com :::
From NL, there are other same small-size polyester designs, interesting in canals, sure much less cute! but nicer inside:
- Pedro Donky 29
- Grommer 800
- Drammer 820 Classic (photo below, built from 1988 to 2006) design enlarged/inspired from British fishing-boat (not far from "Cox Master Marine 22")
1997 drammer 820 classic power boat | id#ijssln
To get engine under cockpit, despite small draft 0.8m, keel is enlarged with fish-shape:
Look at the dinette: dangerous when you leave front seat! no escape-hatch in bow-berth...
Mini TrawlerÂ*Â*8.40Â*::: Yachtopolis.com :::
From NL, there are other same small-size polyester designs, interesting in canals, sure much less cute! but nicer inside:
- Pedro Donky 29
- Grommer 800
- Drammer 820 Classic (photo below, built from 1988 to 2006) design enlarged/inspired from British fishing-boat (not far from "Cox Master Marine 22")
1997 drammer 820 classic power boat | id#ijssln
To get engine under cockpit, despite small draft 0.8m, keel is enlarged with fish-shape:
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healhustler
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The choice would be raising the pilothouse or doing a sedan. Not as pretty.
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Interesting enlarged pilothouse, healhustler.
In Rosas (Spain), for sale 125k€ this traditional 1937 Brooklyn built: I'm not the owner!
(it's from "Le Bon Coin" advertisement)
Total naked update Hull and reconditioning of vitals
Surveyed at: 228.000€
Last antifouled: Octobre 2015
Taxe Total yearly: 55€ each 5 years
19.80m / 4.40m / 1.30m
2x 250Ch 6-71 Détroit diesel
consumption 50l/h "for both engines"
Cruising speed: 10 knots
Marina fee=3500€ / year
In Rosas (Spain), for sale 125k€ this traditional 1937 Brooklyn built: I'm not the owner!
(it's from "Le Bon Coin" advertisement)
Total naked update Hull and reconditioning of vitals
Surveyed at: 228.000€
Last antifouled: Octobre 2015
Taxe Total yearly: 55€ each 5 years
19.80m / 4.40m / 1.30m
2x 250Ch 6-71 Détroit diesel
consumption 50l/h "for both engines"
Cruising speed: 10 knots
Marina fee=3500€ / year
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MurrayM
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Sigh...
Nancy Lakin, a Dave Gerr designed 47' shallow draft (2.5') tunnel hulled & beachable (stainless steel plate on bottom of box keel) yacht is for sale;
NANCY LAKIN – Yacht Details | Worth Avenue Yachts
Nancy Lakin, a Dave Gerr designed 47' shallow draft (2.5') tunnel hulled & beachable (stainless steel plate on bottom of box keel) yacht is for sale;
NANCY LAKIN – Yacht Details | Worth Avenue Yachts
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bshanafelt
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- 37' Custom Pilothouse
yeah, this is one beautiful boat.
Just reading the article earlier today:
http://www.gerrmarine.com/Articles/pMakerSKyleArticle MayJune2013.pdf
Just reading the article earlier today:
http://www.gerrmarine.com/Articles/pMakerSKyleArticle MayJune2013.pdf
MurrayM
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We have big diurnal tides here...makes one dream about easing your way up an estuary at the low high tide, drying out on a sand bar mid river, and leaving on the next higher tide...or exploring lagoons inaccessible to other boats, etc...
hollywood8118
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There seems to be a following on these little boats.. personally I am not a fan but i thought I would post this link if someone was looking for one.
Hollywood
Willard Vega..
1973 Willard Vega 30 Horizon motor sailor
Hollywood
Willard Vega..
1973 Willard Vega 30 Horizon motor sailor
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Coming from Queen Mary (Transatlantique Paquebot, 1934), this aluminium (riveted) "chaloupe" (=ship's boat, life-boat?) had ctp deck+superstructure added on 1999; couple liveaboard/cruising French canals during 15 years.
- 11m x 3.6m x 0.75m draft x 2.5m height above water (25m2 livable area);
- 65hp Peugeot, only one stock-helm in cockpit;
- Water: 1000 liters / 500 liters diesel / 120 liters "red" (fuel for heating);
- Boat is for sale at 33k€, port-place (Montceau-les-Mines) is about 600€ per year (2000€ whether in Mâcon, Saône-River).
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Regarding post # 3402... Looks like fun in France!
From what I know (have heard) riveted boats always end up leaking at the seams. With a boat's age, I'd imagine that water ingress would increase. Am I correct in my assumption??
From what I know (have heard) riveted boats always end up leaking at the seams. With a boat's age, I'd imagine that water ingress would increase. Am I correct in my assumption??
Nomad Willy
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There's one in Juneau for $3500 on Craig's List. I think it's the one that sank several years ago in Haines.
H .... "not a fan" .. Why mention it?
Nomad Willy
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Coming from Queen Mary (Transatlantique Paquebot, 1934), this aluminium (riveted) "chaloupe" (=ship's boat, life-boat?) had ctp deck+superstructure added on 1999; couple liveaboard/cruising French canals during 15 years.
- 11m x 3.6m x 0.75m draft x 2.5m height above water (25m2 livable area);
- 65hp Peugeot, only one stock-helm in cockpit;
- Water: 1000 liters / 500 liters diesel / 120 liters "red" (fuel for heating);
- Boat is for sale at 33k€, port-place (Montceau-les-Mines) is about 600€ per year (2000€ whether in Mâcon, Saône-River).
Small rudder? ..... Not this one.
hollywood8118
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Because I dont think much of them.. you of all people should understand a opinion
HOLLYWOOD
stubones99
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I guess you didn't like airplanes, since most have lots of rivets holding it all together...
stubones99
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the only difference between air and water is their viscosity... both act like fluids...
True - But in conjecture we are speaking i.e.rivets leaking.
Boat leaking air while in air = no big deal... however, boat leaking water while in water = BIG Deal!
Nomad Willy
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The big difference is air is compressible and water is not.
But of course they are both fluids and fluids flow around things or allow things to pass through fluids. But water passing over a curved surface has much the same effect as air passing over a curved surface.
Nomad Willy
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Yes I'm opinionated but perhaps it just seems that way ... because I express my opinions whereas most don't. You seem to be a doer in this regard as well.
Strange about your opinion re Willard's as you're the first person I've heard that does not like them. Most all people liking them will be helpful when I sell. Here on TF I'm surrounded by people too polite or politicaly correct to say they don't like certian boats. On occasion I do that too.
CPseudonym
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I'd go with polite because every time anyone posts that they do not like a particular boat it's normally followed by a dogpile of folks expressing righteous indignation that someone dare dislike any boat. There's several boats owned by TF members and on this thread that I dislike but choose not to comment upon.
Nomad Willy
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Craig I agree to about the 95% level. There are times when stuff just needs to be said. And there are times when critizcizing another's boat is about something that shouldn't be offensive to almost all but the most sensitive. But I'd rather have hollywood or others tell me they don't like my boat now and then. Makes me feel like I'm in a room w fairly honest guys. To be spoon fed sugar 100% of the time isn't good either. That would be like being in a room filled w politicians. Can I talk about your left ear now?
My inlaws have a Willard 40 that I have labeled a "bath tub toy"...
As you might guess, I'm not a politician!
Bruce
Marin likes next to no boats... except of course those he likes!
LOLDislikes kids too!!
Loves his genius dog!
Not too fond of me!
hollywood8118
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funny thing is I didn't actually criticize your boat.. I sort of think yours is cute... it's the M/S version that I am " not a fan" of.
Too often the same hull with a different house goes from a gem to a pig.. all because the designer tried to fit too much in the cube.
HOLLYWOOD
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stubones99
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True - But in conjecture we are speaking i.e.rivets leaking.
Boat leaking air while in air = no big deal... however, boat leaking water while in water = BIG Deal!
Anyone on a pressurized aircraft would disagree...
But, assume that both sealants and rivet technology has improved since the 1930's helping make riveted hardware more reliable and leak resistant.
