Davit's or crane?

Those of you with davits that clip to the dinghy, ala Sea Wise, I am wondering how painful it is to hookup if there is anything more than a one or two inch chop. Seems to me that getting clips lined up and hooked up my be painful/difficult in water that is not perfectly smooty.

Am I wrong about this?

Gordon

Gordon J said:

Those of you with davits that clip to the dinghy, ala Sea Wise, I am wondering how painful it is to hookup if there is anything more than a one or two inch chop. Seems to me that getting clips lined up and hooked up my be painful/difficult in water that is not perfectly smooty.

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I had a set of snap davits for a hard shell FRP dinghy and they were fine in slop. Just a quick little tip, snap, 1-2 and done.

BTW Gordon, can you go help this poster?
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s43/ocean-alexander-48-classic-26122.html

Lester davits on the stern are hydraulic and work with a remote key fob. Www.powerdavits.com. We have a 10.5 bullfrog with a 15hp 4 stroke. It hangs high and still leaves some use of swim platform. Main thing is ease of deploying. The boom set up we had was hell to work with and really discouraged us from launching it. No more. Disconnect harness and push buttons. Get in and drive away. ?

kelbylinn said:

Lester davits on the stern are hydraulic and work with a remote key fob. Boat Davits | Boat Lifts | Dinghy Davits |. We have a 10.5 bullfrog with a 15hp 4 stroke. It hangs high and still leaves some use of swim platform. Main thing is ease of deploying. The boom set up we had was hell to work with and really discouraged us from launching it. No more. Disconnect harness and push buttons. Get in and drive away. ?

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That is pretty slick!
Bruce

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Bruce, We have had our AT-34 for about two years with no dinghy. We really like using the swim platform for entry/exit of our boat. We also do a bit of stern ties and side ties to other boat(s) and it is easy with this boats platform. With the Tanner davit or similar, you cannot use the center transom door without removing the starboard tie back and lowering the dinghy a bit. Since you are building, you can request a starboard side stern door instead of centered. This may allow you to just remove the starboard tie back support to use the swim platform with a Tanner davit (ask Kurt Dilworth at the factory). We have spoken to a few AT34 owners with the Tanner davit, and it is a good unit but they would prefer a different style or a crane. We are shopping now for a davit for our trip up to British Columbia this summer and will buy either the Weaver or Seawise tilt up style. Also, on the AT34 we are limited to 350lbs for the dinghy & gear. I assume the AT39 is the same since they are the same hull except yours is stretched 3'. You will really like the boat!

kpoling said:

Bruce, We have had our AT-34 for about two years with no dinghy. We really like using the swim platform for entry/exit of our boat. We also do a bit of stern ties and side ties to other boat(s) and it is easy with this boats platform. With the Tanner davit or similar, you cannot use the center transom door without removing the starboard tie back and lowering the dinghy a bit. Since you are building, you can request a starboard side stern door instead of centered. This may allow you to just remove the starboard tie back support to use the swim platform with a Tanner davit (ask Kurt Dilworth at the factory). We have spoken to a few AT34 owners with the Tanner davit, and it is a good unit but they would prefer a different style or a crane. We are shopping now for a davit for our trip up to British Columbia this summer and will buy either the Weaver or Seawise tilt up style. Also, on the AT34 we are limited to 350lbs for the dinghy & gear. I assume the AT39 is the same since they are the same hull except yours is stretched 3'. You will really like the boat!

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I fell for this design style years ago when I got aboard an AT 34! We are still considering the 365/34 and will see one this Monday.
We're leaning toward the 395 but we shall see...

One of the reasons we have pursued the AT over the Nordic Tug is Kurt (and the local dealer is doing a great job as well). I'm sure that I am driving him a little crazy with my questions but he has been so responsive! That can not be an easy job...

Another reason we are leaning toward the 395 is that the extra 3' makes it that much easier to get a crane and dinghy onto that upper deck. I can see it now, stand up paddle board. Trinka 10 dinghy, a kayak or two... We are going to look like a waterborne version of the Clampets if we aren't careful!

Bruce

When you move up to a heavier dinghy, you will exceed the dinghy's capacity for riding along on its side on a Seawise system. I know this from buying a 750# Caribe 12 with a Honda 40, that had ridden Seawise for a few years. I had to repair broken Fibeglass at every attachment point of the davits.

With the options to specify where your door is, I would put it to the side, so you can lift a dinghy with the bow to that side and have lots of room to board from the dock.

One advantage to a crane is with a proper mount it can be used ,stowed on the bow to lift a larger anchor aboard daily.

Then moved to hoist a big hard dink into position aboard as required.

FF - I'm conceptually challenged here - what constitutes a proper mount? Seems like you're talking about a "gin pole" that will attach to two different deck mounts? I've been trying to figure this out for my boat for a while and can't get there.

We have had Weaver Snap, Seawise and a crane.
A couple of problems with the Weaver and Seawise is that you cannot see out the back of the boat when the boat is up. Additionally, the Weavers would be hard to unhook if the boat was fully loaded, ie the buoyancy of the tender pushed up on the locking snaps. My concern was that if we took on water, that we would not be able to unhook the tender and use it as a life raft. The Weaver and Seawise required taking out the fuel tank to limit fuel leakage. An AGM battery was ok in all positions

So far no problems with fuel leakage for me.

"what constitutes a proper mount?"

Most cranes that can be moved simply drop into a pipe mount with either a flange to bolt it alongside (as in a cockpit) or a deck plate with reinforcement to hold it vertical.

IF its not used too often a hand winch as found on boat trailers will usually lift what you need with no electric hassles.

The crane on LUCY is aluminum of bent 2 1/2 inch pipe , with an additional bent reinforcement on the curve about 5 inches below with welded spacers.

Drops into a 3 inch pipe housing, KISS

Our crane is a pain but I couldn't live without a clear swim platform. (Sorry for the 90 degree photo error)

We are definitely going the crane route.
I can always add favors later if I feel the need.
Bruce

Hey Bruce B , We had some davits made for our Trinka . I thought about it a long time and went back and forth with the davit or roof storage . Now I kinda wish I would have done the crane thing and stored the Trinka on the roof . This works good but it is in the way of transom door . We still have an old Walker Bay that's on the roof .

Pack Mule said:

Hey Bruce B , We had some davits made for our Trinka . I thought about it a long time and went back and forth with the davit or roof storage . Now I kinda wish I would have done the crane thing and stored the Trinka on the roof . This works good but it is in the way of transom door . We still have an old Walker Bay that's on the roof .

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You have to admit that the Trinka looks good back there though!
Bruce

If you put yours on top I think Trinka makes their own teak chocks . That with a nice canvas cover sitting in top of an American Tug would show off her profile and be a sweet addition to your new boat .