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Interestin' info on moorings for sale in Avalon Harbor, Catalina Island:
Cheapest mooring: $79,500
Priciest: $2.2 million (two at this price)
Total price of moorings for sale: $12,067,500
Median price: $365,000
How do these prices measure up to your area?
 
Are you kidding???

People actually pay real money for a place to "anchor out" abet with a permanent spot and ground tackle?

That is ludicrous!!!
 
Ah...just tie up and see if you get kicked off...

See other thread....:D
 
Any of those in Two Harbors by chance? Might explain the price delta a little. Catalina is a very unique place, so scarcity causes the high prices. Problem is for practical purposes there is no alternative, including anchoring (the anchorage on the other side of casino is pretty exposed and around 100 feet deep.).

There are some spots like Oyster Bay, NY or Nantucket where I wouldn't be surprised if the cost was high, given what they charge for a transient (90 and 80 in our case). So compare that to Catalina, they may be even higher?
 
Well, not exactly "ownership" in the fee-simple sense. What is being sold is a leasehold agreement with the Santa Catalina Island Company (the "Company") for the mooring. For the many tens of thousands of dollars demanded for these leases, the leaseholder gets the privilege of reserving use of "your" mooring ball, provided you give the Harbor Department in that particular cove something like 48 hour notice of arrival. If you are not on your mooring ball, the Company reserves the right to rent your mooring to others, and keep the mooring fees (for a 50' mooring, something like $2/ft/day) for themselves. In addition, the leaseholder must pay a lease fee to the Company for several thousand dollars a year for maintenance of the mooring. BUT, the lease owner gets to moor for free when you are on "your" mooring. Such a deal!

Outrageous? Yeah. But the asked (and answered) cost of these scarce leasehold moorings reflect the supply and demand. Don't want to pay to play in Avalon? Go and take your chances a mooring is available, or don't go. Many is the boater who has showed up Saturday morning in August to be turned away, and had to return to the mainland, with his weekend in the toilet. Anchoring is not explicitly forbidden, but mooring balls fill almost 100% of the coves in Catalina. 100'+ depths generally discourage anchoring out, not to mention the chop and wakes from passing boats.

I doubt a single leasehold mooring has EVER been turned back to the Company for inability to continue to make lease payments, or lack of interest. Most are passed generation to generation through the family, or sold on the open market as the examples provided.

Guess why I moved to the PNW????

Pete
 
A bit cheaper here. Depending on the depth of the water and how heavy you want your ground tackle to be, a mooring here on Mount Desert Island, ME (where Acadia National Park is) will set you back between about $1,500 and $3,500. On top of that you will have to pay $50-$140 per year to the town. The price range represents the different towns and the cost differential for resident and non-resident. Inspection every three years runs about $150 + any needed repairs (normally a new top chain for about $500-$1,000 depending on water depth and size of chain.).

Seasonal rental moorings run about $1,500. Nightly rentals run from $25 to $50 (mostly depending on where the mooring is).
 
Are you kidding???

People actually pay real money for a place to "anchor out" abet with a permanent spot and ground tackle?

That is ludicrous!!!

And I thought $180 K for the slips at the private marina in Whittier was WAAAAY out there. Imagine they are quite a bit more now...:angel:
 
Just to be clear, only the Avalon moorings are "transferable", those in two harbors (or any of the island's dozen or so other mooring areas) are annual leaseholds that are available only by putting your name on a waiting list (waiting for an existing leasee not to renew) and waiting about 10 years. The annual fee for a 69 foot mooring is about $3,500.

The price range is almost entirely a function of size. I suspect that hte $79K mooring is for the smallest size mooring (30', I believe).

The Avalon moorings seem to be down in value. I am aware of one that sold about 10 years ago for over $4M.


There are a very few non-transferable moorings available in Avalon, but the wait is decades. I remember in 1978, when I had a chance to put my name on a wait list (and to pay $5 - $10 per year to keep it there), I was about 20 years old and foolishly decided against putting my name on the list.
 
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I can only imagine what the prices are in Florida town. I feel very lucky to own my own mooring/dock. Still for me, I paid way too much for a dock that was falling apart and put a considerable $$ to bring her where she is today.
 
Forty-four years ago we anchored off Avalon in a 19 foot cuddy cabin power boat. Towards evening the Harbor cops came by and ordered everyone ashore as a Santa Ana storm was comin' in. We went ashore along with all the other boaters and waited it out. The storm came and went with no loss of life but there was some boat damage (not ours.) Perhaps they could have used that strategy last year and saved the life of the harbor cop? No boat is worth a life.
 
The price range is almost entirely a function of size. I suspect that hte $79K mooring is for the smallest size mooring (30', I believe).

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Yup. Plus that ball is probably in Descanso or Hamilton where the rocking can get violent.
 
And I thought $180 K for the slips at the private marina in Whittier was WAAAAY out there. Imagine they are quite a bit more now...:angel:

They are running about 150k for a 50' slip right now.

A few for sale though
 
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