I guess I don't have a "Trawler"

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Very funny! :lol::lol::lol:

There are trawlers that look like trawlers that aren't.

And there are trawlers (a few) that don't look like trawlers that are.

And then there's fishing trawlers .. not worth mentioning here.

manyboats said:

There are trawlers that look like trawlers that aren't. And there are trawlers (a few) that don't look like trawlers that are.
And then there's fishing trawlers .. not worth mentioning here.

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Hey, Eric. I assume you have the same big clouds of birds following you around just like in this cool picture I found of a trawler (I assume it's similar to yours.)

My question is: How the hell do you deal with all the bird poop?

The only time we have this happen is in our fishing boat when we throw over guts and old bait. We've never had this many around the boat because ours is much smaller than the one in the picture. But while the gulls were zooming and booming around the stuff coming off the boat it was raining sh!it. Took me an hour to clean it all off after we got home.

Curious how you deal with it on your trawler. I talked to a trawler crew when I was directing a shoot in Charleston, SC the other year and they said they use one of those carbide cannons the orchard people use. Make a huge bang every few minutes. They claimed it reduced the number of birds directly over the boat but they still get hit a fair amount. You ever try something like that?

Greetings,
Mr. Marin. Solution to bird "bombs" Keep your guts and bait on board until you're up on plane heading home. Harder to hit a moving target.

RT Firefly said:

Greetings,
Mr. Marin. Solution to bird "bombs" Keep your guts and bait on board until you're up on plane heading home. Harder to hit a moving target.

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That's a great idea if one has a fast-enough boat. Not sure the trawlers I've seen in South Carolina, the UK and France can do that but I'll suggest it next time I have a chance.

I guess with big enough engines, anything's possible. As I've always said, in floatplanes and boats there's no such thing as too much power. You've described yet another advantage of this: outrun the bird poo.

Marin said:

That's a great idea if one has a fast-enough boat. Not sure the trawlers I've seen in South Carolina, the UK and France can do that but I'll suggest it next time I have a chance.

I guess with big enough engines, anything's possible. As I've always said, in floatplanes and boats there's no such thing as too much power. You've described yet another advantage of this: outrun the bird poo.

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Lots of BS in this thread, if you ask me.

BS#1: All trawlers must catch fish and attract birds and their droppings.

BS#2: There's no such thing as too much power on a boat. (Apparently you never had experience in full displacement boats.)

Marin, we get your fascination with the concept that none (or very few) of the boats on Trawler Forum are trawlers. Let's just agree to disagree and not worry so much about force feeding a personal verbiage agenda. Let's move past this restrictive concept and enjoy what we have....whatever we call them. After all, this is TrawlerForum.com!!

FlyWright said:

Lots of BS in this thread, if you ask me.

BS#2: There's no such thing as too much power on a boat. (Apparently you never had experience in full displacement boats.)

Let's just agree to disagree and not worry so much about force feeding a personal verbiage agenda. Let's move past this restrictive concept and enjoy what we have....whatever we call them. After all, this is TrawlerForum.com!!

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Al-- I realize that in a displacement boat there's a limit to how much horsepower is effective although it seems nobody bothered to tell the Navy and USCG about this if you've ever seen some of their ships going flat out with their sterns down in the big hole the hull has dug.

I also agree with your second statement, although you might cast your mind back to a recent discussion on airplanes where you were quick to correct people who were referring to the conventionally-tailed Beech Bonanza as a "T-tail" which, of course, it isn't. So we all have our tolerance limits for the incorrect usage of the language.

But your point is well taken and, in this instance, the best approach. Thanks.

Marin said:

I also agree with your second statement, although you might cast your mind back to a recent discussion on airplanes where you were quick to correct people who were referring to the conventionally-tailed Beech Bonanza as a "T-tail" which, of course, it isn't. So we all have our tolerance limits for the incorrect usage of the language.

But your point is well taken and, in this instance, the best approach. Thanks.

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The difference is that I stated this once and only once for the purpose of clarifying the discussion. That has not been the case here until now.

Thanks for your understanding.

Not at this time, you're Honor.

Marin,
You know I've got covered moorage. What birds?

Was in B'ham yesterday and saw a great trawler .. Iron Will. She needs some trim and visability from the helm is obviously lacking but what a boat. Didn't have my camera. Nice floats. Looks like they even come equipped w a storage box.

Greetings,
Mr. Marin. I thought you were referring to bird poop on your small "go fast" boat.

manyboats said:

Marin,


Was in B'ham yesterday and saw a great trawler .. Iron Will. .

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Iron Will is in our part of the marina near us. She used to be owned by the manager of the Seaview North Yard who I believed lived on her for a time. The boat went away for awhile and is now back and owned by someone else. I've never seen her go out but the owner(s) are on her fairly often. One of them likes to sail the small sailboat that's kept across her aft cabin. Her home port is Ft. Collins, Colorado (where I went to college for my freshman year) but I don't know if the owners actually live there or not.

Marin said:

Hey, Eric. I assume you have the same big clouds of birds following you around just like in this cool picture I found of a trawler (I assume it's similar to yours.)

My question is: How the hell do you deal with all the bird poop?

The only time we have this happen is in our fishing boat when we throw over guts and old bait. We've never had this many around the boat because ours is much smaller than the one in the picture. But while the gulls were zooming and booming around the stuff coming off the boat it was raining sh!it. Took me an hour to clean it all off after we got home.

Curious how you deal with it on your trawler. I talked to a trawler crew when I was directing a shoot in Charleston, SC the other year and they said they use one of those carbide cannons the orchard people use. Make a huge bang every few minutes. They claimed it reduced the number of birds directly over the boat but they still get hit a fair amount. You ever try something like that?

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Down here on the Gulf Coast, it is not uncommon for us to be boating in water less than 10 feet....many times in the 5-7 foot range. The bottom is gnarly nasty mud. And in that gnarly nasty mud there is lotsa nutrients....nutrients that the seagulls like. So it is fairly normal for us to have a bunch of seagulls following us around as we churn up some tasty goodies for them to sample.

And on your second point, there are a few shrimp boats around here(strangely I don't call them trawlers) that will get up and go. The first time I saw a shrimp boat doing 20 knots I was in disbelief. But there it was....hauling azz across the bay when it was time to go home!!!!

Baker- I'd like to see that. Even once!
I think these Mississippi Boys ain't (are not) gonna blow that much fuel- even if they had the horsepower!!!


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Regarding the "what to call it" debate, the whole issue has, of course, been laid to rest by technology. When people ask me what kind of boats we own I would use the term "diesel cruiser" to describe the boats we have that are that. Of course, most of the people who asked me would have no more idea of what our boats are like after my answer than they had before it.

The same thing happens if one says, "We have a trawler," or a "recreational trawler, " or a "pleasure craft," or a "cabin cruiser," or pretty much any other term, correct or not, one chooses to use.

But the whole issue has been totally laid to rest by a simple device I would bet that every boat owner has regardless of whether it's a $2 million yacht or a $20,000 well used "Taiwan trawler." And that's a mobile phone.

Today when people ask us what kind of boats we have we simply pull out a mobile, punch up a photo of the relevant boat, and show the questioner the screen. End of problem. They know exactly what we have and what it looks like and how big or small it is.

We find that the need to describe our boats with terms, be they correctly or incorrectly used, has totally disappeared both in conversation and on-line. There's the photo, that's what it is.

Good point, Marin. I always carry a photo or two on my phone for such moments. Here's my favorite. They always ask what I'm doing with all those birds behind me..

When describing my boat to non-boaters, I don't use the term "trawler." I say it is a 35-foot motorboat with a maximum speed of eight (statute) miles an hour (mention "trawler" and "knots" will merely cause blank stares). Guests seem to like the ride. Winter going upriver on the Napa:

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When describing my boat to non-boaters, I don't use the term "trawler." I say it is a 35-foot motorboat with a maximum speed of eight (statute) miles an hour (mention "trawler" and "knots" will merely cause blank stares). Guests seem to like the ride. Winter going upriver on the Napa:
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Wifey B: Shorts and heavy wintry type jackets?

BandB said:

Wifey B: Shorts and heavy wintry type jackets?

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So, you're not familiar with Californians.

markpierce said:

So, you're not familiar with Californians.

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Wifey B: As in "I wish they all could be California?"

Guess not....cause it so totally makes no sense..although I've worn outfits that didn't either so we're even. You must admit it looks silly. :lol:

Those Californians sound a bit like Queenslanders. Even in weather like now, where we are having what even I, (from NZ, where we had real winters), would call cold, many Queenslanders get round in really inappropriate skimpy clothing, and yet don't seem to be bothered by it, (where you would expect the opposite). I think it's because they seem to be able to warm themselves by the simple belief, "it never gets cold here in Queensland - period..!"

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So, you're not familiar with Californians.

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No worries, Mark. People east of the Rockies think we get around out here in covered wagons pulled by a pair of oxen (would that be considered a twin-engine Conestoga?)

They don't get the socks-and-sandals PNW thing either.

Photo is our neighbor's 2015 Ford Northwest Edition F-250, called the F-250 XLT-OX. Comes fully loaded with a full-length sunroof and everything; the only option is the steering stick.

BandB said:

Wifey B: As in "I wish they all could be California?"

Guess not....cause it so totally makes no sense..although I've worn outfits that didn't either so we're even. You must admit it looks silly. :lol:

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For the last sixty years, you'd most likely see me in jeans and T-shirt. The Pierce boys, era mid-1950s: brother Kelvin (passed), cousin Jeff (golfer), yours truly, cousin Tim (passed), cousin Mike (Texas attorney).

BandB said:

Wifey B: Shorts and heavy wintry type jackets?

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I wear shorts perhaps 10-11 months per year, 5 of those months include a sweatshirt at least in the evening.

I read it here, trawler is a term applied to non-descript slow vessels with poor heritage but aggressively marketed. (loose credit to Marin)

A Manatee designed and built by KK is no trawler, it has a pedigree. Or so say the KK aficionados.

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A Manatee designed and built by KK is no trawler, it has a pedigree. Or so say the KK aficionados.

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What pedigree is that?

Nautical designer Buehler says the Coot is based on workboats.