Northern Spy
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I blame Romsdal.
Just remember...there is arguing to make a point and arguing for entertainment.
Guess I may be ignorant...but nobody that knows me has every called me stupid.
Do you feel ignorant, duped and scammed by American Marine for marketing a "Diesel Cabin Cruiser" that implies traveling great distances in a reasonable time frame like a warship?
Ted
At least once a week some newbie comes here seeking advice on buying his first big boat, a trawler. He has been sold a bill of goods that the name trawler means something desirable about the boat. Few are considering ocean passages but most have bought the idea that because it is called a trawler it is more economical, more robust and better at sea keeping. Considering the wide range of boat designs called trawlers how could those features be universally true?
The depth of ignorance on the part of the buying public can truly be amazing at times. We thank you for the complment!
The scam, for those of you who still don't get it, was to make an inexpensive pleasure boat aka cabin cruiser appear to be more rugged and "tough" than it really was by sticking the name of a commercial fishing vessel on it in the hopes that the toy boat crowd would be fooled into thinking they were getting a much more capable, strong, better built boat than they actually were. Kinda like calling an average SUV a "Landcruiser" or a float plane a "Beaver."
It just means the user is ignorant, at least of the language. Again, the Forum thanks you for your "idiotic" slings and arrows.
There are two things that really annoy me: revisionist history and ignorance of one's language. Really? Only two?
I don't give a crap what a person wants to call their boat. WOW! You certainly fooled me!
The folks at American Marine, however, were clearly paying attention in school during the lessons on nouns and they called their new Grand Banks boats exactly what they are: "Dependable Diesel Cruisers." Now, there is a "catchy" marketing phrase!
Meaning, for those of you who have a tough time with all definitions.... Apparently we aren't the ones who have a tough time with definitions...
Why doesn't he feel ignorant, duped and scammed that they were named "American Marine?"
He's trying to make it appear he's intellectually superior to the rest of the world because he knows what a "trawler" is. He's failing miserably in that quest.
Kinda like calling an average SUV a "Landcruiser" or a float plane a "Beaver."
No it's not, Walt, and I thought you were way smarter than this.
The "thing" is a floatplane. That fact and its definition never change. The model number and name of this particular floatplane is DHC-2 Beaver. A trawler is a thing and the word has a set definition. There are a whole lot of companies that make trawlers (hint--Ocean Alexander isn't one of them) and I suspect they give their vessels model numbers or names. But if they are fishing vessels that use trawl gear, regardless of the make and model names, they are all trawlers.
Very, very basic stuff Walt. You should know this given the impressive things you've accomplished in your life.
Wifey B: Have you always enjoyed being demeaning and condescending to others or is that a recent thing with you?
Or is this your idea of humor and you're just pranking the board?
Wifey B: Have you always enjoyed being demeaning and condescending to others or is that a recent thing with you?
Or is this your idea of humor and you're just pranking the board?
As it turned out...we went boating kind of on a whim. It was a Tuesday or something. I had taken the linens home and there was only ONE towel on the boat. I told the young ladies not to worry about laying on the pads...oil up...do whatever you want. But they were still trying to be considerate so they tried to fit all of themselves onto one towel.....
What were we talking about again????
A mid sized straight six makes a nice sound running at 1900. The B-motor would have to run at like 24-2500 to do the same. They don't sound happy there, but are ok. So I'm happy with my choice.
Big beast has been rock solid, too.
Now I don't know if I own a trawler, a dependable diesel cruiser, if I have the right anchor, if my twin engines were a mistake and should have been a single, and if I'm duped by advertising. The only thing I'm sure of now is that I'm missing my damn shoes.
Howard