Shell Oil Rig in Seattle

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You're right, Steve. And stop buying plastic, fiberglass, lifejackets, clothing, paint, deodorant, shampoo, fertilizer.........


I've worked for oil companies for most of my life throughout the world.
IMHO, the environmental impact of petroleum exploration & production is very minimal in comparison to the actual use and disposal of petroleum products.


But let's admit it. We are addicted to the stuff. I am glad it is a limited resource, and eventually we will run out. We have little appreciation for the product which has taken 100's of millions of years to produce, and is sold so cheaply while it is still relatively abundant.
 
"I am glad it is a limited resource, and eventually we will run out."

Perhaps , perhaps NOT,,


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  2. 1. Oil will never "run out",
  3. although lower supplies will force changes in use.
  4. Its costs could go up with a lack of supply
  5. Epoxy to stick together a modern air craft will be paid for regardless,
  6. the days of 17c a gal diesel or 10 gal for a buck may be over.
  7. Then again only a small portion of the planet and undersea areas have been explored.
 
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We should stop all oil exploration.

That will force oil prices up. These current low prices are threatening the dividends on my oil stocks. :)
 
The following quote is from Ahmed Zamani, former Saudi minister of oil and mineral resources; "The Stone Age came to an end not for a lack of stones, and the oil age will end, but not for a lack of oil."

My great hope is some tranformative technology which greatly reduces our current dependance on oil. Things are bad enough right now, but the human population keeps expanding and parts of the third world are poised to belly up to the consumerism trough.

My faith, however, is with Nature. Nature always finds a way to bring cyclical balance to systems. I hope we figure this energy thing out before it gets ugly...
 
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No - we will never run out of oil. The cost of extracting the last bit will be too high.


We've already picked all the low hanging fruit, and there's at least 70% further up in the tree. We will extract some of that, but eventually it required more energy to extract, than you are actually extracting. Already, some deposits like the tar sands in Alberta are requiring 40% of the energy recovered, to extract, process, and transfer the end product.


As Murray says, Mother Nature does find a balance, but she is slow moving. Perfection takes time. Hopefully she can keep up with our greed.


My hope is that the price of fuel skyrockets forcing us to make some changes.
Imagine a world where it is no longer profitable to send refrigerated containers of frozen chicken legs from China to the USA; it's much cheaper to buy them locally.
It's no longer cheaper to buy a disposable power tool; It's worthwhile to buy one that lasts a life time.
Imagine cities designed so we can all walk to work, rather than stress ourselves out in traffic jams.

OK -my John Lennon rant is over. but just remember when the price of oil goes back up, there is a plus side to it.
 
Rig in Everett

She'll should just move rig to Everett, there is already a nice big one there waiting to go drill, drill, drill!!
 
A pic of numerous kayaking protestors made a Sydney newspaper. Unless it`s a fake, there was many more than "a few" of them. What`s that mean? No idea.
 
"What`s that mean? No idea."

Lots of folks have lots of time on their hands and want to "Save the World".

Its Daddy envy , daddy was smoking dope and screwing in the 60's , ending war forever ,and it sounded like great fun.

Today pot is legal and 13 year olds "hook up" , so some protest must be found .


Of course the plastic boats are taken home to their 3500 sq ft house on a 7mpg Range Rover , as they complain about $2.50 gas.
 
There is A nice rig in Everett, and no one seems to mind???

The city of Everett is made up of people with a hell of a lot more sense of reality than the city of Seattle. Everett knows the value of things that bring jobs---- Boeing, lumber, railroads, the US Navy, oil rig parking, marina's, boat launches, etc. When Boeing wanted a deep-water dock as a backup to air transportation for the 787's (and 777's) components that come from Japan, Everett didn't bat an eye and they built the dock.

The number of kayak protesters in Seattle I've heard was about 20. But maybe more showed up on a different day.

The ruckus, at least the official one, seems to have died down now that it's come out that Shell pumps millions of dollars into Seattle (and Seattle's politicians) for all sorts of things, not just oil-rig parking. every year.

While I know there are cities on the planet that are worse than Seattle, I haven't been to any of them yet (except maybe Sao Paulo). Seattle can't do anything right anymore for love nor money. We went to a concert in downtown Seattle Friday night and while the concert was great, the experience of going into and walking around in Seattle was pathetic.

When people we know in different places express an interest in visting Seattle we recommend they not bother. Washington State has lot of great things and places that are well worth visiting, both in western and eastern Washington. But other than the airport, there is no reason we can think of anymore to spend time in Seattle itself.

I'm surprised Shell didn't put both rigs in Everett unless there is simply no room for two of them up there.
 
I cannot speak for what gooes on in the gulf, but I can comment on what goes on in the Arctic.

Folks would not believe the extradornary measures we go through to prevent spills. Rest assured we are being good stewards of our enviroment. We know whats at risk and we work hard as individuals and as a team to do no harm to our surroundings.

I won't say that concern is unwarranted, of course folks should be concerned. We are all concerned and our work practices are a direct result of that concern.

Amen!:thumb:
 
To those idiots in their plastic boats made from petroleum:
 

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Well I'm sure that oil spill in CA got those kayakers all fired up!
 
What the kayaks are made of has nothing to do w the essence of the protest.
 
While I know there are cities on the planet that are worse than Seattle, I haven't been to any of them yet (except maybe Sao Paulo). Seattle can't do anything right anymore for love nor money. We went to a concert in downtown Seattle Friday night and while the concert was great, the experience of going into and walking around in Seattle was pathetic.

I was born and raised in Seattle. After my wife retired from Boeing we moved to Port Orchard and I don't miss Seattle at all. I just wish that Fisheries Supply wasn't in Seattle however if you order more than $100 of boat parts the shipping is free. It really takes an emergency for me to even think of driving in that city.
 
Hello to all. This is my first post ever on this forum. I recently read about the great loop and started doing some research which led me to this forum. I'm posting on this topic because I am a subsea engineer and currently on a drilling rig in Africa as I type. I was in the Gulf of Mexico a short distance away when Macondo blew out and could see the fire in the distance. It is quite difficult for me to explain how terrible it was listening to the media and the reports by people that were "oilfield experts". The reality and the reporting were very far apart. I can say that the efforts the industry goes through to protect the environment are more extreme than people understand but I also don't have rose colored glasses. It is a tough and complex world out here on the rigs. Accidents are a part of this industry just like any other. It's nice to see that the boaters here are a little more understanding of the realities...at least most anyway.
Truth is money always wins in the end and not having accidents keeps the most money in the pockets of the big oil companies.

The 2 rigs up north are for Transocean and Noble...Shell is just the contractor.
 

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