Northern Spy
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- Feb 5, 2012
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- Canada
- Vessel Name
- Northern Spy
- Vessel Make
- Nordic Tug 26
Just because they were delivering a sailboat, doesn't mean they were competent sailors.
Thanks - it should be mine early next week. Yes - Wesmar fin stabilizers.That's a great boat. When are you acquiring it? Stabilized too!!!
I wouldn't put too much worry in bringing down your kk. You're going the easy way. The bottom half could well just be a boring slog down the coast. Spend some time in Misty fiords, the Broughtons, and Desolation Sound. The trip down coast can be done delivery style. Not much to see and lonely.
Totally a bad choice by the owner of the boat but I'm sure he trusted them.
I know an owner of a Hatteras 60' power boat that trusted a non licensed sailboat owner to take his boat up and down the coast from Los Angeles to Cabo and on to La Paz. On the trip back he lost the boat. There were no pre checks and below deck checks while underway. Just watching the bilge light on occasion.
Watching the video made me think of this. Choosing a skipper should be common sense but I think the dollar blows that away.
In most human factors accidents...you can almost always go back to experience and training....in this case, unless someone has a handle on that and medical conditions of the crew, and a few other minor type bits of info...lots of speculation may come back and haunt all those speculating.
Nothing worse than being an accident investigator and missing something very simple at the beginning.
Have at it at the generic discussion, start pointing fingers and the last laugh might be on you....
Good question. From memory, he wrote and/or published "Heavy Weather Sailing". A read which might have helped these people prepare, though if you get yourself into those conditions, maybe nothing prepares you.I wonder if you asked these guys "Who is Adlard Coles?" what their answer would be.
See my post a few ahead of this one. Boat was sighted but don't know if it was salvaged.
My point early on was as much about making judgements from a news article or two and applies here as well.In many cases I'd agree with you. But these guys screwed the pooch from the get go in their seeming ignorance of the forecasted weather. And if the had any medical conditions that could cause them problems in the event of bad weather or being to far from help, then that would just compound their ignorance.
And making and posting that video in that style does nothing to help their cause.
Since you seem to be in a generous mood and willing to give the benefit of the doubt, I wonder what you think of this captain?
Boat comes out of dense fog, crashes into Ruskin restaurant - WFLA News Channel 8
The 2 delivery guys seem to have made a long string of errors...which is typical in many accidents...without info it's just hard to determine which ones were clearly mistakes at the time
But the date of the sighting was June 2013?
I think the CG rescue happened March 6 2013. So the boat floated around for 4 months.
I guess insurance companies don't do massive searches for boats lost at sea? Probably too expensive.
Since you seem to be in a generous mood and willing to give the benefit of the doubt, I wonder what you think of this captain?
Boat comes out of dense fog, crashes into Ruskin restaurant - WFLA News Channel 8
Clearly a case of not enough horsepower.
True. Just a bit more and they would have made the parking lot at the front of the building.
If my history knowledge is correct this also where the Monitor sank while under tow to a new theatre of operations. Of course it wouldn't have required very rough water to sink it.
We were out last year in similar sized seas (10-12 foot, short interval and messy), but with no wind as a storm cycle had just moved through over the previous few days.
We overheated when my hot water tank shifted and kinked the outgoing coolant hose. The engine was down for a couple hours before I tracked down the problem. During this time we were rolling at 45 degrees, until we managed to anchor in 150 feet water.
My crew of one was totally incapacitated due to seasickness, and I wasn't feeling great either, after a big birthday party the previous night. . We didn't even consider notifying the the coast guard, never mind issuing a mayday.
Yes - we were sick and uncomfortable, and were having difficulty sorting out the problem, the contents of the cupboards were rolling around in the aisle, and my mother wasn't there, - but we were not in imminent danger.
They cheated death? - I think they cheated the coast guard & the tax payer.
I think the CG rescue happened March 6 2013. So the boat floated around for 4 months.
I guess insurance companies don't do massive searches for boats lost at sea? Probably too expensive.
I have left Chesapeake Bay twice, where they did going NORTH, there is almost NO since in going south from there. In fact, their compass showed ESE.
What? If you want to get to NC, SC, GA, or FL there is....unless you're going to circumnavigate vertically over the North Pole.
What? If you want to get to NC, SC, GA, or FL there is....unless you're going to circumnavigate vertically over the North Pole.
Sorry. A few words were left out.
I meant going north it makes sense to head outside. But to go south, one saves nothing.
So my question is, if they were heading Ese where were they going?
Also, didn't anyone notice that in the video, they never mention their destination?
.... but the skipper put himself out there with the video.. it is great that others get to learn from his mistakes.
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Sorry. A few words were left out.
I meant going north it makes sense to head outside. But to go south, one saves nothing.
From the tone of the video it did not strike me that they understood the mistakes being made along the way at the time. It felt more like "check out our crazy adventure dude!" Kind of video.