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Warm ICE ???? I recall using ice and boiling waters as standards to check accuracy of bi-metallic thermometers. Ice will always be 32 degree's and water 212 (at sea level) no matter how much you boil it or freeze it.
I'm in the market for one of the counter top ice makers, is the warm ice term indicating thin ice shapes that melt in drinks quickly ? Do any of them make solid ice cubes or other solid shapes ?
The photos of the ice in #1 post looks pretty solid, BUT cloudy.
More ice photos PLEASE and the brand of ice maker would help us buy the best machine.
 
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A little ice history:

Ice harvesting and trade started in the United States in 1805. Because yellow fever was raging in the West Indies, Frederic Tudor of Boston, Massachusetts had the idea to cut ice from a local pond and send it to the Indies in hopes of helping to combat the disease and reduce body temperatures.
clear-ice-cubes-m.jpg
His idea was not well-received. Skeptics thought the idea outrageous and unproductive, believing it would not heed results.
According to CNN Living, on Feb. 10, 1806, The Boston Gazette reported, "No joke. A vessel with a cargo of 80 tons of ice has cleared out from port for Martinique. We hope this will not prove to be a slippery speculation."
Apparently it was, because the ice arrived in good condition but no one bought it. One year later, Tudor continued the venture and eventually it paid off.
Today, the ice industry pulls about 2.5 billion a year. However, its dominance is not what it used to be. The invention of ice makers, and more importantly portable ice makers, have changed the industry significantly.
The Advantages of Portable Ice Making

There are several reasons to invest in an ice machine. First, most ice makers produce about 26 to 35 lbs. of ice per day. They provide enough ice for any party you might have or for your family to enjoy whenever they want a cold beverage.
Second, they're portable. Taking them with you on vacation or to a party is convenient. If you're a boat owner or you like to travel in your RV, a portable ice maker is a great kitchen accessory. This handy appliance lets you make ice on the road. All you need is a plug!
Third, they're compact in size. Most models fit on virtually any countertop, making them perfect for small living spaces. No matter where you plan to use this handy appliance, there's room for it. Use it at work in the break room or in your apartment size kitchen. It's easy to set up and even easier to store.
Lastly, these appliances make ice in minutes. Averaging about 12 minutes a batch, they're amazingly convenient for any occasion.
What Kind of Ice Do You Prefer?

Clear ice is all the rage and everyone wants to know how to make it. According to TLC, clear homemade ice cubes begin with distilled water. Making it isn't easy as you have to boil water and then freeze it in metal ice trays. Although effective this process takes time. You can buy distilled water; however, the freezing time is just as lengthy.
With a home ice machine, you can use purified water to make clear ice and enjoy it in minutes. Presentation is everything, so if you like to entertain and you're looking to serve mixed drinks or sparkling water to your guests, clear ice is the way to go! What's the difference? Below is a brief explanation.
Clear Ice

ice-cubes-glass-m.jpg
Ice is clear when it's made with purified water. The purer the water the clearer the cube. Pure water only contains Hydrogen and Oxygen. It's water in it's simplest form.
Another contributing factor is the way the ice is frozen. If it's frozen slowly and in thin sheets, it will maintain a clear appearance.
The metal plate in the ice maker is the reason the ice cube comes out so clear. Freezing ice in metal trays produces a similar result.
If you want to serve beautiful beverage to your guests, it's a good idea to invest in a portable ice maker for perfectly clear ice cubes.

Cloudy Ice

cloudy-ice-cubes-m.jpg
Ice gets cloudy when it's made with tap water. Tap water contains a lot of disolved air and impurities.
Salt, calcium, fluoride, nitrates, chloramines, and microorganisms are sometimes found in tap water.
When water is frozen too quickly air molecules get trapped, form bubbles, and essentially cloud the water. Ice machines limit the entrapment of air, so the ice produced is clearer.
A Few Fun Facts

ice-cubes-1-m.jpg
Has anyone tried making clear ice with the Dometic or walmart ice machines ? Walmart sells a machine that cost $240 and claims it makes clear restaurant quality ice, is this hype or will the standard machine make clear ice if they follow the above directions ?
I prefer clear ice for my Johnny Walker Black !!
 
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Warm ICE ???? I recall using ice and boiling waters as standards to check accuracy of bi-metallic thermometers. Ice will always be 32 degree's and water 212 (at sea level) no matter how much you boil it or freeze it.
I'm in the market for one of the counter top ice makers, is the warm ice term indicating thin ice shapes that melt in drinks quickly ? Do any of them make solid ice cubes or other solid shapes ?
The photos of the ice in #1 post looks pretty solid, BUT cloudy.
More ice photos PLEASE and the brand of ice maker would help us buy the best machine.

If there were portable ice maker... such as discussed in this thread... that makes ice much colder than 32f, say -10f, I'd consider it. "Warm" ice melts fast; "Cold" ice much slower.


"Once water freezes and becomes ice, it will continue to drop in temp as it gets colder around it. The ice in your freezer at, say, 0 degrees F, is much colder than the ice that has just frozen at 32 degrees F. Similarly the food in your freezer, which is largely composed of water,will get colder and colder as freezer temperature drops."
 
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A little ice history:

Ice harvesting and trade started in the United States in 1805. Because yellow fever was raging in the West Indies, Frederic Tudor of Boston, Massachusetts had the idea to cut ice from a local pond and send it to the Indies in hopes of helping to combat the disease and reduce body temperatures.
clear-ice-cubes-m.jpg
His idea was not well-received. Skeptics thought the idea outrageous and unproductive, believing it would not heed results.
According to CNN Living, on Feb. 10, 1806, The Boston Gazette reported, "No joke. A vessel with a cargo of 80 tons of ice has cleared out from port for Martinique. We hope this will not prove to be a slippery speculation."
Apparently it was, because the ice arrived in good condition but no one bought it. One year later, Tudor continued the venture and eventually it paid off.
Today, the ice industry pulls about 2.5 billion a year. However, its dominance is not what it used to be. The invention of ice makers, and more importantly portable ice makers, have changed the industry significantly.
The Advantages of Portable Ice Making

There are several reasons to invest in an ice machine. First, most ice makers produce about 26 to 35 lbs. of ice per day. They provide enough ice for any party you might have or for your family to enjoy whenever they want a cold beverage.
Second, they're portable. Taking them with you on vacation or to a party is convenient. If you're a boat owner or you like to travel in your RV, a portable ice maker is a great kitchen accessory. This handy appliance lets you make ice on the road. All you need is a plug!
Third, they're compact in size. Most models fit on virtually any countertop, making them perfect for small living spaces. No matter where you plan to use this handy appliance, there's room for it. Use it at work in the break room or in your apartment size kitchen. It's easy to set up and even easier to store.
Lastly, these appliances make ice in minutes. Averaging about 12 minutes a batch, they're amazingly convenient for any occasion.
What Kind of Ice Do You Prefer?

Clear ice is all the rage and everyone wants to know how to make it. According to TLC, clear homemade ice cubes begin with distilled water. Making it isn't easy as you have to boil water and then freeze it in metal ice trays. Although effective this process takes time. You can buy distilled water; however, the freezing time is just as lengthy.
With a home ice machine, you can use purified water to make clear ice and enjoy it in minutes. Presentation is everything, so if you like to entertain and you're looking to serve mixed drinks or sparkling water to your guests, clear ice is the way to go! What's the difference? Below is a brief explanation.
Clear Ice

ice-cubes-glass-m.jpg
Ice is clear when it's made with purified water. The purer the water the clearer the cube. Pure water only contains Hydrogen and Oxygen. It's water in it's simplest form.
Another contributing factor is the way the ice is frozen. If it's frozen slowly and in thin sheets, it will maintain a clear appearance.
The metal plate in the ice maker is the reason the ice cube comes out so clear. Freezing ice in metal trays produces a similar result.
If you want to serve beautiful beverage to your guests, it's a good idea to invest in a portable ice maker for perfectly clear ice cubes.

Cloudy Ice

cloudy-ice-cubes-m.jpg
Ice gets cloudy when it's made with tap water. Tap water contains a lot of disolved air and impurities.
Salt, calcium, fluoride, nitrates, chloramines, and microorganisms are sometimes found in tap water.
When water is frozen too quickly air molecules get trapped, form bubbles, and essentially cloud the water. Ice machines limit the entrapment of air, so the ice produced is clearer.
A Few Fun Facts

ice-cubes-1-m.jpg
Has anyone tried making clear ice with the Dometic or walmart ice machines ? Walmart sells a machine that cost $240 and claims it makes clear restaurant quality ice, is this hype or will the standard machine make clear ice if they follow the above directions ?
I prefer clear ice for my Johnny Walker Black !!


Oh how coulf you??

Thawas just Cold
 
Boy, talk about a 'first world thread'.

Designer ice, my old dad would have had a good laugh at that, he was brought up on bore water and a twenty yard dash from the house to the long drop, checking first for the cunning Red Back under the seat.( a time when men were men, and the sheep were nervous) :rolleyes:
 
You know guys, I just realized I'm always just too early to the party. I saw these ice makers ten years ago and thought boaters would love them. I bought a bunch for my store and ended up selling them below cost. Maybe it's time to try again.

The other thing I tried to sell were small Peltier Effect dehumidifiers. Couldn't give them away. Now Practical Sailor magazine loves them.

Tell me guys, what's the next big thing for boats?
 
You know guys, I just realized I'm always just too early to the party. I saw these ice makers ten years ago and thought boaters would love them. I bought a bunch for my store and ended up selling them below cost. Maybe it's time to try again.

The other thing I tried to sell were small Peltier Effect dehumidifiers. Couldn't give them away. Now Practical Sailor magazine loves them.

Tell me guys, what's the next big thing for boats?

If I knew that I would probably have a marine store..........:angel::flowers::thumb:
 
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You know guys, I just realized I'm always just too early to the party. I saw these ice makers ten years ago and thought boaters would love them. I bought a bunch for my store and ended up selling them below cost. Maybe it's time to try again.

The other thing I tried to sell were small Peltier Effect dehumidifiers. Couldn't give them away. Now Practical Sailor magazine loves them.

Tell me guys, what's the next big thing for boats?

Remote control (from inside boat) inflatable anchor balloons from CO2 canisters that sit inside the mud palm.

Anchor has release gear that places flukes in "lose mode" as balloon inflates. Enables flukes to stop holding by then angling straight down. Light weight material anchor rises to surface. Only works with rope rode, little chain and Fortress style lightweight material anchors.

Easy pizie for gals to pull in the line and anchor! :thumb: :dance:


Just a thought... LOL
 
Correct Art, ice can be super cooled. The 32 degree standard was the melting point of ice or "warm ice".
I'm going to check out the machine mentioned and see if the pricier models have metal ice making trays or plastic. I guess if you wanted super cooled ice you could run a batch and bag it for the freezer.
 
Correct Art, ice can be super cooled. The 32 degree standard was the melting point of ice or "warm ice".
I'm going to check out the machine mentioned and see if the pricier models have metal ice making trays or plastic. I guess if you wanted super cooled ice you could run a batch and bag it for the freezer.

Thats what I do, bag it and put it in the freezer...Works great.

FRank
 
Warm ICE ???? I recall using ice and boiling waters as standards to check accuracy of bi-metallic thermometers. Ice will always be 32 degree's and water 212 (at sea level) no matter how much you boil it or freeze it.
I'm in the market for one of the counter top ice makers, is the warm ice term indicating thin ice shapes that melt in drinks quickly ? Do any of them make solid ice cubes or other solid shapes ?
The photos of the ice in #1 post looks pretty solid, BUT cloudy.
More ice photos PLEASE and the brand of ice maker would help us buy the best machine.

I think we have officially gone off the deep end!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
We should rename this thread...."Ice Porn"!!!!
 
Originally Posted by HiDHo Originally Posted by HiDHo
Correct Art, ice can be super cooled. The 32 degree standard was the melting point of ice or "warm ice".
I'm going to check out the machine mentioned and see if the pricier models have metal ice making trays or plastic. I guess if you wanted super cooled ice you could run a batch and bag it for the freezer. [/QUOTE]


Thats what I do, bag it and put it in the freezer...Works great.

FRank

I can't stop my eyes from bobbling upon reading both posts time and again...

Make ice in an independent ice maker and then bag it to put it in the freezer???

Am I missing something here; you guys must be F'n with me! LOL

Or, are you simply playing with my afflicted mind?

Do you put the newly bagged ice right next to the filled ice trays in the freezer...?...? :facepalm: :lol:
 
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Art, some of us have deep top opening chest type freezers, no shelves for ice trays to sit on. I have a built in icemaker, U-Line I think, we are not big cocktail drinkers so rarely bother using it, if I did I`d put what was left over in the freezer to save firing up the genset powered icemaker next time.
Then again, people we know with a large GB say their 2 icemakers struggle with the demand.
 
We currently bring bags if ice in our super insulated cooler and sometimes throw an extra bag in the freezer. Making ice in trays in our freezer takes forever, although do keep one or two trays in there for the ocassional drink. We don't really use ice for drinks, but do use a lot to keep cans cold in the cooler (too many to fit in the fridge with all the food). We do eat and drink well when on the boat. :)
 
Dang Art, ice trays ?? are they the ones with the handles you pull up to free the ice or the more modern type. Now you done it, those guys in Texas will be wanting to know all about ice trays.
 
Dang Art, ice trays ?? are they the ones with the handles you pull up to free the ice or the more modern type. Now you done it, those guys in Texas will be wanting to know all about ice trays.

I prefer Rubbermaid flex-plastic ones!

As they last completely unharmed many years in freezer-use with expanding ice as well as often flexing to break ice out... while the tray is made of very thin white plastic... makes me wonder material composition. I'm going to set one in the sun this summer to see how it holds up to solar rays??? I imagine not too good. Plan to report findings next winter! :dance:
 

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