Cause they are too finicky about setting.....they have great holding for storms but not trustworthy enough to drop and forget.
I think the Bruce is all time great drop and set anchor...it never failed me but would not trust it's holding power in a blow...then again I hope to never need an anchor in a good blow. Thunderstorms I can wait out or power against...even those are predictable enough to take other precautions if necessary.
None of that makes much sense. Danforths are great storm anchors but lousy day to day anchors. Bruce are great drop and set anchor but drag (which I agree with) so you have to power against them in a blow. And you hope to never need to rely on any anchor in a blow!?
So if I read this correctly, you won't use an anchor that makes a great storm anchor for day to day use but you will use the one that doesn't, but drags in a storm and you have to power up on it to hold. And you can predict thunder storms so accurately that you can always wait them out or have plenty of time to prepare for them. Apparently even at night while you are asleep.
don't worry...the Fortress sells itself to experienced boaters for what it is.... marketing hype of holding power is only part of the equation and many know that....overkill in one part of a design is what may might consider the issue unless all the other requirements are met...which NO anchor does well in all situations.
Yesterday while walking the floats at Anacortes WA I saw several Super Max anchors on the bows of larger boats. That's about the scoopiest scoop anchor I know of and I rarely see them. I hear they are very good in mud. A TF member had one in the last century and thought it was great. Anybody now have one?
I have a 1953 Motor Boating magazine that has many interesting adds within. One is for the Danforth anchor. Says"no anchor holds like a Danforth". Jump ahead 60 years and whenever the Fortress is in an anchor test it's #1 for holding power. That's a lot of staying power for a product. For all practical purposes you are right as no anchor is perfect and needs a special religion but several of the new anchors come close enough to use one's primary anchor in all but a hurricane and then I'd want a Fortress. A Danforth ... that was designed in 1938 according to FF. They were right in 1953 "nothing holds like a Danforth.
Bigsal thanks for your input.
Yesterday while walking the floats at Anacortes WA I saw several Super Max anchors on the bows of larger boats. That's about the scoopiest scoop anchor I know of and I rarely see them. I hear they are very good in mud. A TF member had one in the last century and thought it was great. Anybody now have one?
Psneeld,
We've been talking anchors for over six years and haven't "covered it" yet. And I think all other members know the difference between a post and a book. And why would you "forget"a Claw after "dropping" it any more or less than any other anchor?
44-lb pivoting Max-16...
Looks kinda like the business end of a back-hoe.
Chris
And with my background....I have never been surprised by thunderstorms while anchored...because I don't usually anchor if predicted unless in a really protected area....and even then I'm not "surprised" that a thunderstorm could form. As I said in a previous post, the high, gusty winds in a thunderstorms are a short lived event usually and usually not nearly the test of an anchor as a multi-hour storm.
Chris - Picts? TY, Art
Yes
And with my background....I have never been surprised by thunderstorms while anchored...because I don't usually anchor if predicted unless in a really protected area....and even then I'm not "surprised" that a thunderstorm could form. As I said in a previous post, the high, gusty winds in a thunderstorms are a short lived event usually and usually not nearly the test of an anchor as a multi-hour storm.