Yes and no. A swivel will release the 1/2 turn you put in your chain when you secured it to the new delta. It will also introduce a new pint of failure to your anchor system. Just say no to swivels and learn to release 1/2 turns from the roller when they happen. Once you get the hockles out you should be good for a while.Well back to the question.......... Will a swivle fix the problem with the delta wanting to come up backwards which causes me to go back down to the deck and turn it while coming up with the windlass for the last couple of feet?
Well back to the question.......... Will a swivle fix the problem with the delta wanting to come up backwards which causes me to go back down to the deck and turn it while coming up with the windlass for the last couple of feet?
I'm not sure what some of that specifically means - it could be read in different ways. I would hope that no trawler powers against anchor chain/anchor set with just a windlass making contact with the chain. That's a pretty sure recipe to break the windlass out and watch it plop over the bow with electrical wires dangling behind. You should always have some way to lock the rode ahead of the windlass and only use that to pull out an anchor. This becomes even more critical when using one of the newer types of anchors. In my case, my 2,500 lb windlass won't break my 121 lb Rocna out of a well-penetrated set without using the mass of the trawler itself to pull it out. I'm only ever able to pop the anchor loose with the windlass about 20% of the time and I'm always surprised when it happens.I can and have pull it up to break water and just leave it hang till I get clear of the other boats, shallows etc, but if the windlass ever let loose at that point it could cause a big issue... If it can't be solved I will do it the way I have in the past.
I am not sure it's the design of the anchors as much as the size of them vs your displacement/windage. Isn't your displacement over 55000 lbs? A 45 lb anchor seems small. I would up the size significantly.
Thanks for all the inputs so far. Yesterday I removed the CQR 22KG, I know it is too small. I installed the Delta 45 just as a test. It does not sit as well on our anchor roller but I am only using it as a test. Then I will try the Fortress FX37, (again too small but she has held us in everything so far) with the all chain rode and see how it does. At least that way I will have some test cases before I buy. I tell you after lifting even the small anchors I am leaning more toward the Fortrest if it will set well and work in the mud as well as the sand with the all chain rode. I will let you know how the testing goes. Thanks again and any other ideas are always welcome....
I wonder if all I have to do is turn the anchor chain over 180 degrees on the windlass. I never tried that. Could it be that simple..........
If my current anchor has never failed to set or hold, how can anything be "much better"?
Kind of what my wife said when I told her we had to get a new $1200 anchor because we are going to explore the west coast of Florida next year. She went on to observe that "$1200 can buy us a lot of time in some really nice marinas. "
She's the navigator...
Dave
The first time we bought the Delta up she came up facing correctly and pulled right in. The second time I had to use my boat hook to get it turned around to pull into the pulpit. Not that big of a deal but sure would be nice to have it facing correctly everytime.
When my Delta comes up backwards, when it hits the roller the weight of the anchor flips it over to the correct position. Then just bring it on it.
Don, I now understand why your anchor flips over if needed and ours doesn't. Our anchor comes up through a slot in the bow pulpit and the slot is only wide enough for the flat side of the anchor neck. So as soon as the anchor comes up into the slot it can't turn over. Hmmm, not sure what to do about that.
Interesting comments about not powering against the windlass to pop the anchor out of the bottom.
I always tie off to our sampson post when I anchor to take the strain off of the windlass.
Upon retrieval I power forward with the engines until we are right over the anchor, picking up the almost slack rode with the windlass as we go. Then I pull hard with the windlass until the rode is tight. If the anchor doesn't come loose I power forward until it does. With such a short scope (we usually anchor in <20 feet of water) there doesn't seem to be much strain on the windlass. It would be a pain to wrap the the chain around the post at that point as the post is BEHIND the windlass. I'd have to slack the chain.
Plus my post is really shiny....I wouldn't want to scratch it it.