Doug Oliver
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Any suggestions for duck-ins along the outside of the Eastern Shore(del-mar-va penn.) and out side NJ. We're bringing a trawler up the coast this May.
Any suggestions for duck-ins along the outside of the Eastern Shore(del-mar-va penn.) and out side NJ. We're bringing a trawler up the coast this May.
Any opinions on Barnegat Inlet?
...........Check it out at Active Capt, there's a lot of info.
Be very careful about any information or advice pre-Sandy (late-October 2012) along the coastline of NJ. Ignore anything, even in ActiveCaptain, that is dated before then - use it as a suggestion at best especially north of Atlantic City.
The safe, deep-water inlets are Cape May, Atlantic City, Manasquan, and Sandy Hook. We've always (our 12th year) been able to skip by Manasquan but keep it as a bail out point. It's a long day between Sandy Hook and Atlantic City but definitely possible for any trawler-type vessel especially as the days get longer (like in May).
If I were going to enter any other inlet along the coast of NJ, I'd want to talk to a local tower to get the latest info about buoy markings and passages. If you wait for good weather, there should be no reason to have to use any other inlet though.
If you and your friend have never seen Cape May, NJ and are a fan of architecture...Victorian Cape May is usually on a persons short list. Just barely 12 miles or so further than anchoring out and much less further if looking for dockage at Cape Henelopen (Lewes, De).Thanks everyone, this is great info...I am a Maine sailor who has never been South of Block Island. I am helping a friend, who is brand new trawler owner, bring her Bristol 42 from Newbern. This Bristol cruises a 6 knts and I was planning approx. 10 hour days. I'm planning the trip using Garmin Blue charts & Active Captain. The ICW to Willoughby Bay leg should occupy the 1st 3 days. From Willoughby I have planned Chincoteage Inlet-Cape Henlopen-Barnegat works next for distance- then to Great Kills Harbor in NY-to somewhere in Long Island Sound- to Block Island & from there I'm all set. I have NO experience on a trawler and neither does the new owner, so please feel free to offer any opinions or advice. Thanks again.
I live next to the lighthouse on Barnegat Inlet which makes this our home port. The tall tales are a) from the same people who post ActiveCaptain shoaling warnings next to markers that are out of the channel; or b) people who visited Barnegat Inlet before the south jetty was built.
Here is my "local knowledge" guide to visiting Barnegat Light.
Dave
think about bgoing to little creek va and from there to ocean city? its about 110 milesThanks everyone, this is great info...I am a Maine sailor who has never been South of Block Island. I am helping a friend, who is brand new trawler owner, bring her Bristol 42 from Newbern. This Bristol cruises a 6 knts and I was planning approx. 10 hour days. I'm planning the trip using Garmin Blue charts & Active Captain. The ICW to Willoughby Bay leg should occupy the 1st 3 days. From Willoughby I have planned Chincoteage Inlet-Cape Henlopen-Barnegat works next for distance- then to Great Kills Harbor in NY-to somewhere in Long Island Sound- to Block Island & from there I'm all set. I have NO experience on a trawler and neither does the new owner, so please feel free to offer any opinions or advice. Thanks again.
Be very careful about any information or advice pre-Sandy (late-October 2012) along the coastline of NJ. Ignore anything, even in ActiveCaptain, that is dated before then - use it as a suggestion at best especially north of Atlantic City...............
Sounds like it's time to do some editing or deleting on the website.
There's a lot of research about crowdsourcing that we follow. It's the wrong thing to remove older comments about an anchorage or hazard. Every one is dated. Having the older info shows a history of what happened so you get a better view of the dynamics of the area.
In a similar way, I think a 1-star anchorage is the most important anchorage type of marker. It's because it let's you know that a place that looks like it should be a good anchorage actually isn't good. That's incredibly valuable especially if that anchorage was one you were relying on as a backup or for other reasons.
The goal isn't 100% accuracy for every piece of data. The goal is to document the history and provide quality decision making capabilities.
Can't speak for Chincoteague, but Ocean City MD is far safer and than any sea side town in NJ, and locals are far more friendly than the inbred knuckle draggers that run most NJ marinas.Ocean City is like Chincoteague...it's not the inlet or the marinas that are the issue...it's the people there....you can't have little dogs or children or they are not safe...
O C Diver...you are from Florida...right?????? By the way what does OC stand for....????
Can't speak for Chincoteague, but Ocean City MD is far safer and than any sea side town in NJ, and locals are far more friendly than the inbred knuckle draggers that run most NJ marinas.
My charter boat's name is OC Diver, short for Ocean City Diver. Been running charters out of Ocean City MD since 1985. Became a Florida resident in 2010.
Ted
NOAA milage - Chesapeake Bay - Norfolk to Delaware City 209 NM
Delaware River - Delaware City to Cape May 51 NM
Total 260 NM
OpenCPN - Cape May to Norfolk 154NM
106 miles is at least another day stop if you are stopping every night so add another 10 miles at least, for me it's a lot more.
My 6.3 knot boat I haven't done it yet but figure coastal is 3 days....stop every night. Chesapeake is at least 5 and most of the time I take 6 because of tidal currents. If you hit the Delaware at the wrong time...you can be fighting a 2+ knot current for a long time. Of course timed right...you get that push. Just don't do the Delaware if it's a screaming tide and opposing wind...very choppy to say the least if the winds are nearing 20 knots or better.
All said...the Chesapeake is a nicer cruise and lot's more options....just longer by several or more days unless you really push and time the tides well.
I take it when you say Delaware City you mean the mouth of the C&D? Any way from the Hampton Tunnel / Willoughby Bay it is 225nm on my core routes (not stopping in anywhere) to Cape May (western entrance to CM Canal. By ocean I also have 155 to CM, 110 to OC and and 127 to Indian River.
Having been on a few fishing trips out of Chincoteague, there are times when it is just not safe; there is a reason the chart shows "breakers" across the entrance. The depths change a lot there too, I never felt confident taking 5 feet of draft in there though certainly it is done every day by the locals. The Corps does dredge it virtually every year, I'm told, so some of that may depend on how recently. I guess what i am trying to say is that with a new-to-you boat looking for a place to duck into in adverse circumstances, I wouldn't count on it.
Yes, if you stop to smell the roses and cruise the Chessie, it will add some extra distance.