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On that note, I think we should. More pics and voyage stories please.
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Enjoying your trip....thanks for posting!
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Great pix. Been through there a number of times but never at night. Give a toot when you pass Barnegat Light.
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Strap the galley down...
What RPMs are you turning? About 1800?
Very envious of your trip. If you become immensely bored, your trip pics would make a good photo album on the forum - if the upload process wasn't so kludgey.
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Oops sorry, 1420rpms. Nice following current is giving us well into the 7knt average. Unfortunately a big square stern is not what you want in following seas. Now is when you find out how good your autopilot is.
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Wow. 1420. You are definitely not guzzling. And 7 kts at that. DeFever. Really like that company and your model. Like the cockpit for water access. Only thing we really miss with our sundeck.
Thanks.
Thanks.
beachbum29
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Really sloppy large confused seas. 104nm of thisI sure hope the Delaware is better.
Good luck with that thought...
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Actually the DF 48 has quite a curve about (10" or so over the 14') stern to the transom, making it quite kindly in following seas in comparison to some other un-named vessels. I saw one of Art's earliest vessels this summer and it was nearly canoe sterned. As the years progressed his designs became more contemporary, I'd bet Tad Roberts could educate us on the pros and cons of these two extremes.
I have found that throttling up to about 8.7 knots and 1900 RPM smooths out following seas giving the rudders additional bite so the AP can work more efficiently. Daddyo, you'd be amazed at what the active stabilizers do for roll mitigation on the DF 48.
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No way!!!!!
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theran5317
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Be interesting to know how the guages are calibrated. These are reading -0.93, with a forcast of -1.5 ??
http://water.weather.gov/resources/hydrographs/wasn4_record.png
According to the website, these are not affected by the sequestration
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Wow good to know. There are times (passengers on board) that I wouldn't mind the extra burn to comfort them.
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I hit the tide perfect. High tide at Reedy Point was at 9:00. We got there at 8:53. 8+knts up the bay and 8+ down the canal. I've run the Delaware many times and only once did she match her reputation. My experience is you need to work your timing based on Reedy Point.
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Doing the zig zag down the bay?
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Dropping my dad off in Baltimore so he can get back home to Raleigh. Then it's Annapolis for some RR and recharge my son's batteries for his run at getting into the Naval Academy next year and somehow he's managed to swing escorting two girls to homecoming. Then probably St Michaels then Deltaville.
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Originally Posted by RickB View Post
Sorry Ben, I was not the one who suggested that the guy who let his kid jump overboard in 6-10' seas was making up the size of the waves. I take him at his word ... you can call him a liar if you like but I just call it really bad judgement, right up there with keeping the family onboard while anchoring in the path of a hurricane, or intentionally sailing into one.
More and more this sounds like a future Robin Walbridge, defended by those who don't know any better and probably on the road to killing someone.
Your out of line
My two cents, OK more like two dollars
Yesterday, I was on the Fifth Ave bus. Getting on with me at 96th st., was a mother, probably about 40 you, and her daughter, maybe 2 y.o.
I sat opposite them for the next 30 minutes. After a while it became painful, because the kid was acting like a kid: she wanted to hold the bag they had, she then wanted to eat the yogurt her mother had, she then was mimicking sounds of the automated announcement “please exit at the rear of the bus”.
The problem was the girl, while precocious, was just being a kid. It was the mother who was embarrassed by her kids, behavior, noise, etc. So she kept admonishing the kid to act “correctly”. This then escalated to tantrum type behavior, but thankfully only for a minute before the next thing came up.
So, then, finally the mother relents and lets her have the yogurt, but then proceeds to feed her like a real baby. Why, because she was afraid the girl may spill it. A valid concern, but my not allowing the child to do anything, she was in effect teaching her all the wrong behaviors.
The conclusion that many studies have revealed, is that older parents, while far better financially and economically, are actually worse for the child’s growth. They know too much, so they become too protective and are embarrassed by actions that are normal.
On a related note and the point of this story, is that teenagers are an invention of the 20th century. For hundreds of thousands of years, there were children, who became adults at puberty, 14-16 years old. One of the reasons were are having troubles in middle and high schools, is that we are treating kids like children, when they are not. Don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying kids have any sense, but am saying that if you protect them from everything, they will not learn. The consequence of that is that we have growing generations of adults who in their 30’s and 40’s still act like kids, because they were over protected when they should not have been.
Learning comes with risk and sometimes even loss, injury, etc. If you remove that, you end up with no learning.
Coincidentally, I am just reading book hat mentioned a 19 year old, who was the first captain to sail a crewed sloop around the world in 1794. I wonder what he was exposed to at 17?
So my point, just because we can protect our kids from risk, doesn’t mean we should. (Just look at the raising of the drinking age, 30 to 40 years ago, and the unintended behaviors that has developed)
Lastly, to make a judgment on behaviors, based on a few line description that was written for another purpose, is probably not that reasonable.
Thankfully, I came from a generation in which my parents let me grow and learn. In NYC, I was taking the city bus, alone, to and from elementary school by second grade. Nowadays, there are long lines of SUV’s idling outside, waiting for their kids, and more of those kids will die in car accidents, than ever died taking the city bus alone. But then, now we can, so we do.
Richard
Sorry Ben, I was not the one who suggested that the guy who let his kid jump overboard in 6-10' seas was making up the size of the waves. I take him at his word ... you can call him a liar if you like but I just call it really bad judgement, right up there with keeping the family onboard while anchoring in the path of a hurricane, or intentionally sailing into one.
More and more this sounds like a future Robin Walbridge, defended by those who don't know any better and probably on the road to killing someone.
Your out of line
My two cents, OK more like two dollars
Yesterday, I was on the Fifth Ave bus. Getting on with me at 96th st., was a mother, probably about 40 you, and her daughter, maybe 2 y.o.
I sat opposite them for the next 30 minutes. After a while it became painful, because the kid was acting like a kid: she wanted to hold the bag they had, she then wanted to eat the yogurt her mother had, she then was mimicking sounds of the automated announcement “please exit at the rear of the bus”.
The problem was the girl, while precocious, was just being a kid. It was the mother who was embarrassed by her kids, behavior, noise, etc. So she kept admonishing the kid to act “correctly”. This then escalated to tantrum type behavior, but thankfully only for a minute before the next thing came up.
So, then, finally the mother relents and lets her have the yogurt, but then proceeds to feed her like a real baby. Why, because she was afraid the girl may spill it. A valid concern, but my not allowing the child to do anything, she was in effect teaching her all the wrong behaviors.
The conclusion that many studies have revealed, is that older parents, while far better financially and economically, are actually worse for the child’s growth. They know too much, so they become too protective and are embarrassed by actions that are normal.
On a related note and the point of this story, is that teenagers are an invention of the 20th century. For hundreds of thousands of years, there were children, who became adults at puberty, 14-16 years old. One of the reasons were are having troubles in middle and high schools, is that we are treating kids like children, when they are not. Don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying kids have any sense, but am saying that if you protect them from everything, they will not learn. The consequence of that is that we have growing generations of adults who in their 30’s and 40’s still act like kids, because they were over protected when they should not have been.
Learning comes with risk and sometimes even loss, injury, etc. If you remove that, you end up with no learning.
Coincidentally, I am just reading book hat mentioned a 19 year old, who was the first captain to sail a crewed sloop around the world in 1794. I wonder what he was exposed to at 17?
So my point, just because we can protect our kids from risk, doesn’t mean we should. (Just look at the raising of the drinking age, 30 to 40 years ago, and the unintended behaviors that has developed)
Lastly, to make a judgment on behaviors, based on a few line description that was written for another purpose, is probably not that reasonable.
Thankfully, I came from a generation in which my parents let me grow and learn. In NYC, I was taking the city bus, alone, to and from elementary school by second grade. Nowadays, there are long lines of SUV’s idling outside, waiting for their kids, and more of those kids will die in car accidents, than ever died taking the city bus alone. But then, now we can, so we do.
Richard
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Your very right about the curve. I really meant in comparison to a canoe stern. I became intimately familiar with that curve as I tried to bend the slats for the swim platform I built last year out of Ipe. Ipe is strong as steel and just as flexible.
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