Have a friend that currently owns a 36 Moorings Cat sail...thinking of a power and/or trawler.
Is currenly looking at Bayliners/Meridians...could buy a Flemming (probably cash) but doesn't see that he would get his money's worth out of it because he's not going to live aboard.
Pretty smart guy, engineer, owner of several companies, got in on the bottom floor of plastic decking..etc..etc...
He's shopped and knows what his dollars will buy..for him...I agree in the direction he's thinking.
Badmouth these boats and you show your ignorance...to try and compare them with the top brands is just as bad...
99.9 % of the time you can get the same places in the same comfort in the same safety with a Bayliner MY as a top name brand....because it's more about the captain and maintenance that will determine the outcome than the price point.
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