Yeah, those nautical terms get me some weird looks from family & friends. I spent the best part of my younger days on Highland Bayou (Gulf Freeway & Highway 6, near Hitchcock Texas) at my Grandfather's camp. First boat was a sunk then bailed out wood skiff & 5 horse Elgin that Uncle Walter gave to me & my brother. Only stuff we had was ropes, winches (on boat trailers), oars, and regular gas. No capstans, gypsies, rode etc ad nauseum. Now that I'm a big time trawler owner I've started w/ the nautical terms; hence the odd looks from those who've known me from my skiff days. Maybe its best to go back to the old speak that my nautically uneducated crew can understand.clyde wrote:
another thing...commercial fisherman never use what we call 'yachty talk', or 'salty talk'*in conversations...terms like 'anchor rode', chain rode, gypsy, capstan, anchor windless, and so on. on commercial boats, we had an anchor winch, anchor rope/line,*chain, anchor chain is just 'chain', the pilot house is*refered to as the wheelhouse. the guy that runs the boat is called the 'skipper, and that*thing we usually towed behind us, was called a 'skiff', and so on...when i was in grade school in se alaska, i read all kinds of books abt rescues at sea, coast guard epics abt what they did way out there, salty books abt the sailing ships hundreds of yrs ago, etc, so i learned all the terms! if one were to use term/words like those mentioned, on a commercial boat, i think your name would be changed to 'greenhorn' real quick!' kinda like using the correct words for everything on a sail boat! i have some friends that use all the wrong words just to bug the*nautically correct sailboat guys! i enjoy reading all the letters/problems, and sometimes reply...seems sometimes problems get hashed over so many times, it`s crazy, but entertaining...c**
-- Edited by clyde on Wednesday 8th of April 2009 11:49:52 PM
I believe you are right with regards to what happens when the wind or current sends the boat in another direction.* If the wind or current are strong enough, the changed angle of pull will lever the anchor out, which is why many manufacturers make a big whoop about how fast their anchors will reset.*oldfishboat wrote:
I do not belive anchors make the turn. They pull out and dive again when setting after a 180 turn.
I dont buy into the "tag" line thoughts I just dont. Could be the on deck set up I have. Or that I do not want another line in the water attached to the bottom.
I'll keep an eye out.* You might also check the website or call Dunato's Second Wave in Seattle.* Same kind of store as Pacific Marine Exchange in Bellingham.** I don't get to Second Wave very often because it's quite aways from where I work, so I'm not very "up" on what they have in stock.nomadwilly wrote:Marin, If you see an excellent forged Northill about 15 to 18 lbs please let me know. I say that to you because you have that wonderful 2nd hand store in Bellingham.
I agree with you, but the reality is that in production recreational boats like the ones most of us have, be they Grand Banks, Mainships, or Bayliners, their windlasses and pulpits are a far cry in terms of strength, mounting, and power that you get on a true working boat.oldfishboat wrote:
Marin
So here we are full circle IMO. "Sampson Post & Capstan" . This stuff should not be the weak point in the ground tackle system.
Eric---* We have one, we've tried it, and it didn't work as advertised.* With the type of anchor we have the ring will not end up where it needs to be on the shank to have an effective backwards pull.* Instead you end up pulling mostly against the full width of the fluke, not sliding it out backwards.* But a trip line fastened to a shackle in the hole at the back (wide) end of the fluke slides this particular anchor backwards very nicely.nomadwilly wrote:
Marin,
It seems we may not need to trip over trip lines anymore. I see anchor retrieval "rings".