Nautical terms

markpierce said:

Accounts I've read said mutineers were hanged.

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they were? Well then what infration of duty was punished by walking the plank

Huh, Northern Spy? Aren't you talking about the 1959 Blake Edward's movie Operation Petticoat?

Walking the plank was a form of murder thought to have been practiced on occasion by pirates and other rogue sailors.

markpierce said:

Walking the plank was a form of murder thought to have been practiced on occasion by pirates and other rogue sailors.

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r u sure about that? Often when i have been out on the water i have been threatened with both keelhauling and walking the plank....hummm...not pirates...yep they must be rogue sailors.

Just 2 cents but I think ceiling is not NEARLY nautical enough for this forum.
Overhead.

Otherwise one should structure their wording to accommodate their audience.

And around other yachtsmen over doing nauticalness is worse than underdoing it.

bfloyd4445 said:

I always thought of the plank as a device of punishment used by the captain to get rid of seamen that didn't act in a seaman like manner. You know, walk the plank. A gangplank is used to get rid of a group of mutineers maybe?
Kinda like keel hauling without a return. So is keelhauling preferred to walking the plank for the ofender?

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From what I understand... very few if any lived through keelhauling. Just think of the cuts received from 2" + barnacles all over the boat’s bottom as you were pulled roughly and completely from side to side with lines tied to hands and feet - including being muscled past the deep keel. If lucky enough to hold breathe long enough to not drown, then you soon died from blood loss and infections. No very good gauze and antibiotics available back then YUCK!

bfloyd4445 said:

r u sure about that? Often when i have been out on the water i have been threatened with both keelhauling and walking the plank....hummm...not pirates...yep they must be rogue sailors.

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Pretty sure ... and it sounds like you have a problem with neighboring sailors.

In all my years at sea it has been called the deck head not ceiling or over head.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using correct nautical or boat building terms, I suppose after 40 + years at sea it is pretty natural.

skipperdude said:

And what is the name of the boarding plank used to go from the dock to the boat?
Sd

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I believe the 'de regueur' term is passerelle, at least on the Riviera etc, where they usually go from stern to dock, as much of their mooring is stern to. Traditionally, gangplank has stood the test of time, but is a rather 'agricultural' term, so...if you wish to impress.....I think that's the term above you were looking for SD.
passerelle - Wiktionary

With the narrowboats in the UK canals, a heavy plank carried on top of the cabin is how you get from the boat to the bank if you can't get the boat right up next t it. I have always heard this plank simply called the "boarding plank." In the photo you can see the boarding plank on its rack on top of the cabin up forward.

I think the word everyone is looking for is "passerelle", French for "footbridge". I think it is usually thought of as the gangway used in Europe when moored stern-to, Med-Style. No finger piers over there!

Yes. We had one of those - never needed it.

Agreed. We don't call the person who writes plays a "play writer", they're a "playwright". It's just the "wright" thing to do!

Works for me , my company has been named YACHTWRIGHT since the 1960's.

When we started a service outfitting mostly sail cruisers.

Northern Spy said:

Oh. You guys actually saw that movie?


Darn.

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Hasn't everyone?

I'm surprised Bogey hasn't shown up yet.

manyboats said:

........ And around other yachtsmen over doing nauticalness is worse than underdoing it.

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The term "yachtsmen" is borderline overdoing it at best.

skipperdude said:

On another thread the term celings is used.

Do you think it is important to use Nautical terms on this forum?

Sd

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Only when referring to anything abaft the beam.


Anyone depressed by the lack of progress of his boat restoration project has the shipfitter blues.

RT Firefly said:

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Was he left handed... always sucking on items from right side of mouth!

Art said:

From what I understand... very few if any lived through keelhauling. Just think of the cuts received from 2" + barnacles all over the boat’s bottom as you were pulled roughly and completely from side to side with lines tied to hands and feet - including being muscled past the deep keel. If lucky enough to hold breathe long enough to not drown, then you soon died from blood loss and infections. No very good gauze and antibiotics available back then YUCK!

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no need for gauze and antibiotics they had something back then that was pushed aside by modern medicine till the invention of the super bugs and thats honey. You simply pack the wound with honey then apply presure till bleeding stops and you are done. Honey kills all bacteria know to man, is hydroscopic, and promotes tissue regeneration with minimal scaring. I've know this for decades but only recently have i really put this to use. Two years ago i was chopping ribs when the knife slipped and stuck in the bone of my hand just above where the thumb and forefinger come together. There was blood every where and i didnt know what to do but there was a jar of honey sitting there so i slapped some on then lay down before i passed out. After a few minutes i could function again so went to the emergency room for stitches. When the doctor came in i told him what happened and showed him the wound. He said to keep it clean and it would heal just fine, thats it. I asked him if he wasnt going to clean it or anything and he said no, you have already done all that needs to be done with the honey and it will heal fine without stitches.
He was right, healed very fast and a month later not even a scar.
oh by the way, some hospitals began useing honey as a last resort against surface super bug infections lately cause the antis just dont get the job done.

bfloyd4445 said:

no need for gauze and antibiotics they had something back then that was pushed aside by modern medicine till the invention of the super bugs and thats honey. You simply pack the wound with honey then apply presure till bleeding stops and you are done. Honey kills all bacteria know to man, is hydroscopic, and promotes tissue regeneration with minimal scaring. I've know this for decades but only recently have i really put this to use. Two years ago i was chopping ribs when the knife slipped and stuck in the bone of my hand just above where the thumb and forefinger come together. There was blood every where and i didnt know what to do but there was a jar of honey sitting there so i slapped some on then lay down before i passed out. After a few minutes i could function again so went to the emergency room for stitches. When the doctor came in i told him what happened and showed him the wound. He said to keep it clean and it would heal just fine, thats it. I asked him if he wasnt going to clean it or anything and he said no, you have already done all that needs to be done with the honey and it will heal fine without stitches.
He was right, healed very fast and a month later not even a scar.
oh by the way, some hospitals began useing honey as a last resort against surface super bug infections lately cause the antis just dont get the job done.

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I'm sure thems sailors that cared had a clean jar o' honey sitten round in the 16 and 17 hundreds to promptly care for dem blokes' wit thousant barnacale cuts who's just gots keelhauled!

But - that is interesting you mention bout Honey's wound-cleansing properties. Heard that before, but never tried it. Thanks for input!

Art said:

I'm sure thems sailors that cared had a clean jar o' honey sitten round in the 16 and 17 hundreds to promptly care for dem blokes' wit thousant barnacale cuts who's just gots keelhauled!

But - that is interesting you mention bout Honey's wound-cleansing properties. Heard that before, but never tried it. Thanks for input!

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ha ha...your right. I just wanted to point out that there were very good options back then. In fact, when the spanish conquered mexico the spanish king asked them if they wished a medical team be sent over to help and it was refused by the bishop in charge of the new land. He replied that the locals had a more advanced medical system than they did. Soon after that the bishop was ordereed to burn and destroy all pagan documents which he set out to do very thouroughly. He sudently realized he was destroying all this advanced medical knowledge and ordered the destruction stopped. Alas, he was to late and there were no surviving medical documents left. This wasnt learned untill quite recently when the old logs from those years were finally alloowed to be read. I beleive whqat opened the bishops eyes was a need for a cure for diabetes which the natives were successful in treating. We dont have a cure for that even today.

Moonfish said:

Agreed. We don't call the person who writes plays a "play writer", they're a "playwright". It's just the "wright" thing to do!

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FlyWright agrees!!

I have always written the word saloon and spoken the same word as salon. I am now off to get a haircut in a bar. ^_^

Anyone use the word "tuck" to describe part of their boat?
I know an older shipwright who uses it rather than <another more common word>?

BruceK said:

Anyone use the word "tuck" to describe part of their boat?
I know an older shipwright who uses it rather than <another more common word>?

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As memory serves me from working in a new boat builder's factory in Maine during my late teens... the term tuck must have had something to do with part of the transom. What it actually referred to in that area I never understood as I was not used on that location of the boat. All I remember was that one or more of the carpenters asked by the foreman to work on the tuck went to the outer transom. I was always installing in the wood (and fiberglass) boats some prefabed interior parts; also did some work on wood boat deck frames. I worked more often on the fiberglass boats.

I first got online in 1990. At that time a sailing friend (Yes, I have them) used the term "baggy wrinkle". Later I did an online search for the term.

My wife thought I was surfing porn !

I just tried it a few minutes ago and it no longer brings up all the porn it did in 1990. Proof that language changes over time.

I just now looked up the word Tuck... now I understand better... but not completely still, as the defination I located seems a bit lacking. I'll not repeat it here to see if others know where and what a Tuck on a boat is, before they look it up!

boatpoker said:

a sailing friend (Yes, I have them) used the term "baggy wrinkle".

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Usual cure: tighten the luff, harden the sheet, or recut the sail.
More of a facial description for me these days.
Or a reminder of the nude singing act by Maisie at the aged persons home concert when someone says "Not sure what Maisie is wearing tonight but it badly needs ironing"
I got no help from Google on"tuck" but I`m pretty sure what the shipwright meant.

I always thought the term referred to the stern overhang...but I'm clean minded...and...and...innocent...

Usual cure: tighten the luff, harden the sheet, or recut the sail.

NOPE, wrong guess for baggywrinkle.