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Old 02-28-2011, 10:55 AM   #21
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Tony - Tough question. When I had the Hat she was fairly new, and never had a single problem with the power plants. Which boat would I prefer? Memories can sometimes enhance themselves, but given the engine rooms, layout, etc., I think I would go for the Hatteras. The MT is much more efficient, and serves my purposes well now. I love my MT, and hopefully won't be switching but the Hat is a lot more boat. Now I'm going to have to hop on a Hat to see if memory serves correctly.
Carl,The 53 hatt is too much boat for you. *In fact, the 50 Marine Trader is as well. *What you REALLY ought to be piloting is a very nice Monk 36. *PM me so we can work out the details of the even swap! *

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Old 02-28-2011, 11:14 AM   #22
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A Hat 53 with a couple of 150 JohnDeere(lugger)s sounds good to me.

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Carl check your PM.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:22 PM   #24
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Carl, I know, I know, I hear that a lot. But truly- I INSIST! haha
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Sounds like a match made in Heaven!
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Ruled out the 53' Troljan MY. Its just to much boat for me at this stage. I have a 1972 Egg Harbor 38' that I inspected and really like. The owner wants a swap with my Thompson. My Thompson is 110% turn key with lots of custom one off upgrades (see pics in album) and the Egg is in very good condition for a '72 but certainly will need some lovin' and $ invested. Any opinions on the Egg 38'? I can't seem to get this out of my mind. I also can't seem to shake the "Trawler Bug" that bit me. I think a nice 36' Trawler may just be the best for me and my family. No more thoughts or concerns about going fast; I've decided to keep my Rinker 270 for that!! We are really concerned more about comfort and reliability.

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a couple pics of my thompson. i built the custom helm.

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Old 03-04-2011, 02:08 PM   #28
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Gin,* The Thompson looks nice and clean and "Sellable" to me.

Think you should give trawlers a try and skip doing over another planing powerboat.

36' Sounds like a very practical size for your adventures.

All good things take time and effort!

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Thanks for the compliments John. Yes, I think I am going to focus on a Trawler 36' - 42'. To date I have only owned fiberglass boats. I am now looking into steel and wood hull options. This boat will be in the water year round. Any thoughts?
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Gin,* Sooner or later most boats become neglected a bit.

People lose interest, die, run out of cash, buy another boat.

Fiberglass hulls will stand this neglect better than Wood or Steel.

Wood is often the best riding boat, and comfortable living on.

Steel is the strongest, I believe.

I have never owned a steel boat.

The wooden boats I owned in the past never worried me about rot,

but shipworms and the condition of the fasteners were of concern.

The decks and cabins rotted more than the hulls.


I think glass is good for most people.*


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Gin,* Check out the Grandbanks wood boat site.

www.gbwoodies.com******* They have a great owner support group and their boats are still going strong.

But not without much love ($$)* and care.

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If sweat equity is on the list , the current FL Marriner PDR666 shows a 55ft Bertram hull with a roomaran house built up that needs "clean up and engine repair" for $8950.

Might be good if you are boat skilled.


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Thanks for the lead FF. Although I am a perfect candidate for a sweat equity boat, I've decided against bridge style cruisers. I just can't afford the fuel burn rate.

My current deal on the table;
1972 Egg Harbor 38' w twin 4t4 Crusaders
My research shows me a fuel burn of approx 16 - 20 GPH at 8-10 knots. (**If wrong please advise)

I am looking to take this boat from my home port of Mt.Sinai, NY to Virginia Beach. 340 NM, 35 hours and approx $3200 in fuel... ouch!!! That's an expensive trip to do 2 times a year!

All this is giving me gassss ! !
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A 38 ft boat at 8-10K is operating in the worst possible speed range , just above hull speed.

Slow to 6 or perhaps 6.5 and you should be down in the 3 - 5gph range.

Either displacement speed or fully up on a plane , in a boat designed for it is the cheapest to operate.
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thanks ff. all of my boating experience is with my day cruisers which have been used locally and without and concern for extended cruises and fuel. i have to plug in a slower cruise at six knots and see where that lands me.
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.... is that 3 - 5 gph for the pair or each engine? Do you really think that's a realistic # for 454s and a 38' boat weighing 22k plus? I have no problem dropping down and cruising at 6 knots.
Thanks again!
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Gin,* If the 38 did 20knots at 20gallons per hour you would get 1 nmph.

If you burned 5 gallons per hour at 6knots it would not be much better.

Somewhere on plane there is generally a sweet spot that gives you the best nmph.

The only problem is loading,* the more you take the more it costs to keep on plane.

That is where trawlers or running slow has an advantage.* Not weight sensitive as much.

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Oh, I'm so confused!! Arrggg

Ok, here's what I'm trying to do:

1. My initial trip will be 70 NM
2. My down south ICW trip will be 350 NM

What will be the least expensive way to run her with time not being an issue? I'm going on a fuel cost of $4.50 p. Gal.

*38' semi displacement hull
*22,000 lbs
*Twin 454s

Thanks again for helping me guys!.
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Don't be confused.

It costs a lot of money to travel up and down the ICW every year.

It costs a lot to keep*a boat docked -South or North.* Unless you own waterfront property or Moor out.

Carl Stone,* Has a good solution-* keep one boat North and one boat South.

Hey you have two boats? Right?

Problem solved.

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