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Old 01-14-2018, 05:31 PM   #1
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Looking for a smallish Trawler. Protected prop a must. Prairie 29 to a anything No projects. Have Cash Ready!
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:34 PM   #2
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Whats your price range?
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:32 AM   #3
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There's a 36 foot Marine for $19,500 Trader on Craigslist in Panama City Beach. Might be worth a peek. Not sure if it has a protected prop, though.
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Think you need to expand your search beyond Florida but before you even do that, you need to define your requirements a little better and come up with a target budget. If you want a boat under $50K with a protected prop, most of the boats will be Taiwanese Tubs that need work now and forever. The ones with the teak decks replaced, new fuel tanks, new windows, no soft decks and no leaks are almost non existent.

If you look on the Great Lakes, you might find a TT in better condition for no other reason than that they sit in a barn for 7 months out of the year and don't get exposed to salt air and water. Once you bring one to FL, all bets are off.

Here is a non TT up in Ohio, you may want to consider (note - I have never seen it and have no knowledge of it).

1973 Willard 30 Vega Nomad Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Here is a boat in TN, one of our members has for sale.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981.../United-States
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You mentioned a Prairie. There are two for sale just now in FL:

Prairie/Atlantic 36
Used 1982 Atlantic Prairie 37 Lrc, West Palm Beach, Fl - 33404 - BoatTrader.com

Prairie 29
Used 1979 Prairie 29' Trawler, Port Canaveral, Fl - 32920 - BoatTrader.com

If you learn anything about either one of these vessels. I would appreciate hearing what you learn/think.

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If you get yourself a buyer's broker, he/she will do the looking for you and it's the seller who pays the commission, not you.

Brokers have the resources to find boats for sale.
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If you get yourself a buyer's broker, he/she will do the looking for you and it's the seller who pays the commission, not you.

Brokers have the resources to find boats for sale.
The buyer always pays the commission on a brokered boat sale.

While I understand what you are saying, even though the seller has a contract with a broker to pay the commission, the reality is the buyer is paying it. If the broker wasn't involved the boat would be 10% cheaper typically.

As far as brokers having resources, in today's world of the internet you can find the same thing the broker is looking at with a little bit of effort. Where this may not apply is to the local knowledge deals where the broker doesn't have a listing but knows an owner may entertain offers. On occasion a good deal maybe located this way.
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Sounds to me like you are looking for a Mainship 34 Mk1. Get one that has already been refit. Weakness, leaky bridgedeck, cockpit deck. Leaks above galley. Poor lower helm, but will do in bad weather. Solid boats, good sea boats and there are over a thousand out there. Best bet in your price range.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:59 PM   #10
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You mentioned a Prairie. There are two for sale just now in FL:

Prairie/Atlantic 36
Used 1982 Atlantic Prairie 37 Lrc, West Palm Beach, Fl - 33404 - BoatTrader.com

Prairie 29
Used 1979 Prairie 29' Trawler, Port Canaveral, Fl - 32920 - BoatTrader.com

If you learn anything about either one of these vessels. I would appreciate hearing what you learn/think.

Good luck!

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Dear Tim, Thanks, that 37 is way overpowered with 2 big V8s and a bit wide at 14ft, I'm going to see the 29 next week-its been for sale for 6 months
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:59 AM   #11
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Looking for a smallish Trawler. Protected prop a must. Prairie 29 to a anything No projects. Have Cash Ready!
Still looking on --2-6-2018
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If you'll consider other locations...

Jefferson Beach Yacht Sales (St. Clair Shores, MI)
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Still looking on --2-6-2018
How did the Prairie 29 look ?
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If you'll consider other locations...

Jefferson Beach Yacht Sales (St. Clair Shores, MI)
I do not want a Mainship- there are many for sale in Florida at give away prices that seem to have just kind of fallen apart in the Florida heat and humidity. Plus they are usually overpowered ant the prop un-protected.
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both have the Perkins-4-108 only37HP Need the 80HP 4-236
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GeoLeo;
So I assume you looked at the Prairie 29 in Port Canaveral. What did you think about the condition, looks, whatever about this boat?

If the engine was not "big" enough.....why?

Any other issues about this vessel you liked, didnot like?

What was the condition generally of the boat? Was it true to the advertisement?

Just curious since if you looked at it; I would like to know.

Thanks.

Also; seems you really are aware of what you want and do not want. What is this based on and why?

Again, curious and through you and what you have learned in your boating, you can help those of us still looking.

Thanks.

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GeoLeo;
So I assume you looked at the Prairie 29 in Port Canaveral. What did you think about the condition, looks, whatever about this boat?

If the engine was not "big" enough.....why?

Any other issues about this vessel you liked, didnot like?

What was the condition generally of the boat? Was it true to the advertisement?

Just curious since if you looked at it; I would like to know.

Thanks.

Also; seems you really are aware of what you want and do not want. What is this based on and why?

Again, curious and through you and what you have learned in your boating, you can help those of us still looking.

Thanks.

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OK Tim - since you asked- The P29 at a dealer in Canaveral is a nice boat- well cared for and nicely equipted however it has only a 37 HP engine. and that 37 HP is at hi rpms and quite noisy there. Asking price is 26-5K . The other one is from SORTIE a member here -it is also very well cared for and well equipted as well - but same 37 HP engine. He is asking 29K. I feel this engine will not be good for unching thru a 15 knot headwind with a 3 ft chop in shallow Gulf waters and will slow the boat from 7mph to 4 mph or less. A friend has one that has the 80 HP perkins and it it great It cruises at 1800 rpm . Has plenty in reserve to punch thru a chop.
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GeoLeo;
So I assume you looked at the Prairie 29 in Port Canaveral. What did you think about the condition, looks, whatever about this boat?

If the engine was not "big" enough.....why?

Any other issues about this vessel you liked, didnot like?

What was the condition generally of the boat? Was it true to the advertisement?

Just curious since if you looked at it; I would like to know.

Thanks.

Also; seems you really are aware of what you want and do not want. What is this based on and why?

Again, curious and through you and what you have learned in your boating, you can help those of us still looking.

Thanks.

Tim
In my 45 years of owning and cruising sailboats I have had 2 Perkins 4-108 diesel engines. They say they are 50 HP -yes but the book says you cant run them at 4000 rpm for more than 10 minutes so everyone "props' them for 2800- 3000 rpm where they only put out 37HP! At 2800 rpm they are very noisy. So most prop them at even lower rpm where mpg is very good but punching thru waves is poor .
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In my 45 years of owning and cruising sailboats I have had 2 Perkins 4-108 diesel engines. They say they are 50 HP -yes but the book says you cant run them at 4000 rpm for more than 10 minutes so everyone "props' them for 2800- 3000 rpm where they only put out 37HP! At 2800 rpm they are very noisy. So most prop them at even lower rpm where mpg is very good but punching thru waves is poor .
BTW- have no idea what the dealer in Canaveral will take for the P29-however it has been there at least 8 months.
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The buyer always pays the commission on a brokered boat sale.

While I understand what you are saying, even though the seller has a contract with a broker to pay the commission, the reality is the buyer is paying it. If the broker wasn't involved the boat would be 10% cheaper typically.

As far as brokers having resources, in today's world of the internet you can find the same thing the broker is looking at with a little bit of effort. Where this may not apply is to the local knowledge deals where the broker doesn't have a listing but knows an owner may entertain offers. On occasion a good deal maybe located this way.
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