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Old 10-27-2013, 09:06 PM   #1
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Manual windlass anybody got one for sale ?

Wanting to change out my Maxwell Anchor Max to a horizontal manual.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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Why do you want a manual?
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:11 PM   #3
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I have a manual windlass. It is next to useless.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:44 PM   #4
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I've got this Powerwinch taken off my boat in working order a few years ago. Is this what you're looking for?

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:54 AM   #5
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Why do you want a manual?
I finally started working on new caprail yesterday . I started at the bow where because it's in the worst shape. I'm rebuilding or replacing everything up here ,anchor roller , bollard and chocks. I don't really have a good reason to replace other than I would like to close up the large hole that the power windlass has to have.Mine doesn't have a chain gypsy .I like the look of the ABI but I think they are going to be to pricey for me. Maybe something like a Simpson Lawrence Sea tiger
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:04 AM   #6
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You mention a large hole for the power windlass. Is this for the chain to go into the locker, the wires to the battery, or if it is a vertical windlass the hole for the motor.

A power windlass which is horizontal does not have the large hole for the motor. The chain hole is the same as with a manual and the holes for the wires are insignificant.

Horizontal windlasses come in all sizes and prices. Many people feel that a power windlass is a safety issue in that anchoring and lifting anchor are times in which enough is going on that the skipper should not be burdened with the additional work / distraction of cranking the windlass by hand.

Give some thought to this before you buy a manual windlass and especially talk to others who have one and who anchor out.

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Old 10-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #7
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Mine is vertical and the hole is for the motor. When you start to tear things off and see how some of it was put together the first time you kinda start to rethink things.The original install wasn't very good, leaky and rotted out some of the area.I have a outside bulk head area about 2' x 6' and around 2' deep where the chain and rode and fenders are stored then chain and rode feed into the chain locker by hand.We are on the river for now and probably anchor about 20 times a year.I may just reinstall this one and do a better job of it. The chain locker is not far enough aft to get the windlass in line with the anchor.It worked like it was just a ragged install and everything kinda bunched up together. I can extend the teak anchor platform aft and put a manual or powered horizontal here and keep it in line with the anchor.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:04 AM   #8
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Get an electric with manual override.....use it in manual a few times trying to get a good set and around the third reset you will probably be real happy its also electric
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:21 AM   #9
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I have much the same situation as you. Since I use so little chain (12') or so I opted to get a capstan. When I pull the rode up to point where the chain comes over the bow roller I hand pull the chain and anchor. Still not fun w my 35 lb anchors but not really hard either. But it would be a PITA to pull up from deep w just hands and arms. But it's almost easy w all my lighter anchors (13 - 22lbs) when I use the capstan to pull the bulk of the rode.

The deck board is 1" thick plywood and handles the line pull of the anchor rode and port and stbd mooring lines. It's bedded in "Dolphinite" that always remains soft so I can pull the board up quite easily. All the holes are well covered and sealed.

As you can see my capstan is very small. It's also only $425, very noisy and amazingly powerful .. for it's size. Since the drum is mostly flat I have some trouble keeping it in the middle so I'm thinking a saddle shaped drum like the capstan FlyWright showed is in my future. I've seen a lot of both the winch FlyWright has and the one I have on boat over the years. Google "Powerwinch" and you'll find another similar capstan. In my case the time I actually use the capstan is not long so my capstan motor is on no danger of overheating.

If I ever decide to use a lot more chain (not likely) or use a 35lb anchor regularly I will get a more traditional windlass w the gypsy and a lot more chain. And if I think I need more anchor performance I'll get a 23lb Fortress and retain my system. I'm quite happy w the system I've got though except the straight/flat drum. I think I got the capstan at WM.

When I took this picture I had no idea I'd use it so much.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #10
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:25 AM   #11
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One of the finest windlasses made was the Simpson Laurence 555.

2 speeds 12-1 and 40-1 (from memory).

There are loads of Chi Com knock offs made years ago that seek OK to use .
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One of the finest windlasses made was the Simpson Laurence 555.

2 speeds 12-1 and 40-1 (from memory).

There are loads of Chi Com knock offs made years ago that seek OK to use .

I was able to find one a few years ago and it works just fine. But then, I don't anchor out much.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:18 AM   #13
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Forgive the diversion, but I note in a couple of posts on this thread the use of "rode" and "chain" as if they were two different things. Chain IS rode. ANYTHING that connects your anchor to your boat is rode...whether it's cable, line, chain, a combination of the two, or nylon panty hose tied together (ref: Chapman Piloting and Seamanship).
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I see I've used the word "chain". And correctly as I see it. The word "rode" refers to the whole thing .... chain + line or cable and probably even shackles I sopze. Talking about the chain part of the rode necessitates using the word that represents that part.

Seems elementary CK ... perhaps I don't understand your criticism.
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Forgive the "criticism" Manyboats. None was intended, and you're absolutely right. My comments were prompted by post #7 above. Over the years I've heard so many use the word "rode," thinking that it's a terribly nautical term for "rope," I suppose I've fallen into the old guy's trap of letting such minutia chafe (no pun intended).
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One of the finest windlasses made was the Simpson Laurence 555.

2 speeds 12-1 and 40-1 (from memory).

There are loads of Chi Com knock offs made years ago that seek OK to use .
Do you know the model of the smaller version of the 555 ?
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Do you know the model of the smaller version of the 555 ?

No but SL still has a web presence.

Ideal is US made and very good quality , but I \dont know about 2 speed manual.

Why would you go smaller than a 555?

If you cruise much that 40-1 ratio is mighty fine in helping get unstuck from errant land lumps.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:27 PM   #18
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Thanks I just found it 510 is what I think I want.
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I have this royal windlass manual if interested let me know
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:43 PM   #20
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Do you know the model of the smaller version of the 555 ?

No but SL still has a web presence.

Ideal is US made and very good quality , but I \dont know about 2 speed manual.

Why would you go smaller than a 555?

If you cruise much that 40-1 ratio is mighty fine in helping get unstuck from errant land lumps.
That's a good point. Right now we are just crusing the TN River .anchor out about 20 times a season. Maybe one day do part of the loop from Paris Landing to somewhere around southwest Fla.. I'm gonna look at the deminsions on the 555.
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