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Old 05-26-2019, 07:04 PM   #1
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Loop boat wanted

My wife and I want to begin the loop in April/May 2020 leaving from south west coast of Florida-Englewood-we are looking to buy a suitable boat sometime in the fall of 2019 or early 2020 with the intention of becoming comfortable with the boat between purchase and departure. We have taken one boat to survey only to find a number of problems and in the opinion of the survey person we simply were going to pay too much for the boat. There was no negotiation with the seller so we walked away reluctantly . We really want a boat and was wondering if any of you out there might be finishing your loop sometime in the fall and might be interested in selling your pride and joy. Our budget tops at 60k. Would be very interested in talking to anyone out there whose plan might mesh with ours. Thanks cliff
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We will be back down in the area around Christmas. We are not selling but if you want the see a Monk 36, we will be in Englewood.
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Buying a boat large enough to comfortably do the loop for $60K is going to be a set of compromises. First for that budget expect to be buying a boat with quite a few issues. That isnít necessarily a bad thing, just reality. Keep some money set aside to do repairs and upgrades. I would buy sooner rather than later in order to have time to get to know the boat and do the repairs. The more work you can do the more money you will save. Good luck.
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Cliff,
Are you thinking a multi-year loop? With the lock closure in the summer/fall of 2020, the single year loop is going to be very difficult in 2020.
Are you a member of AGLCA? Or MTOA? Both groups have classifieds and AGLCA has many boats that have completed the Loop.
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How about this 36 Albin for sale right in these classifieds?


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Plan to do loop in 2 sessions.may 2020 from Florida getting to upstate ny or maybe into Canada by fall of 2020. Picking up again in spring/summer of 2021 depending on water conditions and making way back to Florida by fall early winter. I am handy and willing to accept some issues that I can fix and at the same time learn about the boat..just do not want a project boat...good bones ...I have reached out ref the Albin 36 but think the single engine with no thruster would be more than I can handle..anyone know the cost to have one installed??tganks cliff
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My wife and I want to begin the loop in April/May 2020 leaving from south west coast of Florida-Englewood-we are looking to buy a suitable boat sometime in the fall of 2019 or early 2020 with the intention of becoming comfortable with the boat between purchase and departure. Our budget tops at 60k. Would be very interested in talking to anyone out there whose plan might mesh with ours. Thanks cliff
A. Once you have a boat, you will have more friends.

Are you anticipating taking a couple of extra folks along for at least part of the ride? If so, get a 2 stateroom boat, two heads. Wet heads are inconvenient because you have to wipe down the walls and floors after taking a shower. Ideally, a washer/dryer that will wash and wrinkle your clothing for you.
For a fact, sleeping on that slide out berth in the salon is not the best and it takes up time to assemble and disassemble and if you end up with late sleepers, you are trapped in the stateroom. My golden hearted 'house mouse' has her parents from Vietnam here. I gave up the stateroom because I wake early and start breakfast after the first cup of coffee and reading the news.
In another month, they will go home and I think her sister is coming over for a visit, duration unknown. It is a blending of 2 cultures and an interesting experience. SMILE

So, 2 staterooms, 2 head, one dry shower.
Storage space for food and clothing will be at a premium with a one stateroom boat and not much better with a 2 stateroom recreation vessel. You must impress on your traveling guest, minimum clothing..... no tux, no formals, shorts, tops, a couple pair of slacks, a dress shirt or two. Everything should be wash and wear. Then there is the conservation of water and then, the marine head. That is a subject best be discussed after you and your wife 'discover' how quickly the sanitary tank can fill up and the FW tank empty. LOL

Of course, I have ignored the mechanics features of the boat, ie generator, main engine, fuel tanks, water tanks, sanitary tank, ideally a water maker too. I will let other address those.
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Plan to do loop in 2 sessions.may 2020 from Florida getting to upstate ny or maybe into Canada by fall of 2020. Picking up again in spring/summer of 2021 depending on water conditions and making way back to Florida by fall early winter. I am handy and willing to accept some issues that I can fix and at the same time learn about the boat..just do not want a project boat...good bones ...I have reached out ref the Albin 36 but think the single engine with no thruster would be more than I can handle..anyone know the cost to have one installed??tganks cliff
Installing the tunnel is the costly part. A guess for the complete system would be $10K to $15K.

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Anyone know offhand what the maximum draft and bridge clearance is for a perspective "looping" boat?
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The max draft on the TST is 6í, however if you draft more than 5í they require that you sign a waiver for damages. I donít remember the exact air draft.
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Installing the tunnel is the costly part. A guess for the complete system would be $10K to $15K.

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That is right about what I have seen for a bow thruster, I was told about 11 to 12K. I put a stern thruster on my boat. I did all the labor and the parts were about 4K.
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Dont buy the minimum HP bow and stern thruster. Get the next size up if your house batteries/hydraulic pump can support them. IMO, it is better to give a short burst with an extra HP or 2 than a prolonged running of thruster that are "just right" for the boat.
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Motorsailer with the emphasis on motoring might be a good option. Never even have to put of the sail if you are not interested.

The Fales Navigator is kinda interesting at $40K. It has inside stearing, a flybridge, and sails.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...gator-3503165/

Here are a couple of other motorsailers.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...utter-3234311/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...at-33-3533663/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...r-436-3492636/
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The ideal Loop boat

We have been interested in a loop boat for years. Based on recommendations from various loopers, we searched for a trawler with a single screw diesel and a bow thruster between 34and 36 feet. We found it in 2015 . It was totally refurbished by A reputable boatyard to remove the teak decks and rot under the windows. This is a 1986 CHB Oceania which has a Perkins diesel 135 and a Vetus now thruster. Over the last 4 years we took it up the St. Lawrence River, through the Thousand Islands, the Trent Severn Waterway to Georgian Bay and up the Rideau Waterway system. We love the boat but are done with long range boating. It has a forward suite with a head, a master suite aft with a queen size bed and a full head, Sundeck and full separate bridge. This should do the Loop trip for you. Contact me if you're interested.
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Price? Is the boat in Canada? Thanks
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The price is $57,000 CDN o.b.o. It is in Canada but we would be willing to deliver. Thank you.
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The price is $57,000 CDN o.b.o. It is in Canada but we would be willing to deliver. Thank you.
If I were in the market for boat, I would give that boat serious consideration.

That part about willing to deliver can be a real education for the new owner..... Get to go inside and outside, maybe a few nights on the outside a few miles off shore....

I wish you a quick sale and a long delivery for the new owner's education .....
Not many current owners are willing to invite the new owner on the delivery.
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Too late to switch gears but if the scheduled survey doesn’t work out will be back to you .
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Anyone know offhand what the maximum draft and bridge clearance is for a perspective "looping" boat?
I believe the Maximum air draft for unrestricted Loop route is 15' 6". You can transit (restricted) areas up to 17', I think.
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I believe the Maximum air draft for unrestricted Loop route is 15' 6". You can transit (restricted) areas up to 17', I think.
19' 6" to do the loop.
17' to go through Chicago as opposed to the Calumet river
15' 6" to go West of the Oswego canal on the Erie canal

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