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Old 11-27-2013, 07:09 AM   #1
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I like these, Kadey Krogen 42 estate sale

Not mine nor do I have any association with itů

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Old 11-27-2013, 07:42 AM   #2
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At $74,900 it won't last long unless she has some serious issues. That's well below market.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:40 AM   #3
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My guess is she has a wet hull.
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:21 AM   #4
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Same boat, different listing. A little more info

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Old 11-27-2013, 10:41 AM   #5
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somehing's amiss with the boat or they forgot the "1" in front of the other numbers in the price
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:47 AM   #6
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True points and no doubt the boat probably has some "issues". But then again it could be fire sale priced by the heirs in order to liquidate the estate ASAP. Not altogether uncommon either.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #7
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This appears to be the one I looked at on Kent Island Maryland 2 years ago. If it's the same boat, the hull was reglassed over the core. Boat sat out of the water for several years and "oil canned" while blocked on land.

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Old 11-27-2013, 11:31 AM   #8
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With the KK42 the house roof line follows the sheer line and presumably the outside deck. That would presumably transfer to the inside decks so walking fwd would be like climbing a hill. I'm not sure if I would like that unless it was low angle that would not be noticed. An extreme example would be the Lord Nelson Tug Yacht. It reminds me of cartoon images of tugboats w baseball cap wheelhouses. I don't really care for the look of it but it may look even more strange if the entire house was horizontal especially nested within a hull w a steeply ramped up sheer. If I had designed the Lord Nelson I may have considered splitting the slope difference between the outside decks and the inside in the wheelhouse. But I think I've seen boats w a horizontal cabin roof and sloping decks inside. The OB cruiser called a (Swansborough ?) has as I recall has a sweeping fwd sheer w a horizontal cabin roof. I assume that's to maintain headroom as it's a small boat and that the inside floors are probably horizontal for the same reason. This is an element of design not often considered.

Is the KK extreme in this way? I can think of only one more-so on this regard and that's the LN.

Diver you mean "oil canned" as in "hogged keel"? That would be BAD.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:46 AM   #9
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I just texted the guy asking if it had hull issues and he said it needed a bottom job.

I guess he meant replace the whole bottom! :-)
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #10
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Diver you mean "oil canned" as in "hogged keel"? That would be BAD.
This really deals more with sections of the hull flexing and stress cracking. In an otherwise proven hull design, this might indicate insufficient layers of glass in a reglassed hull. Hull might be salvageable by simply peeling and reglassing. But then I'm not a hull expert, and have never played one on TV.

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Old 11-27-2013, 12:16 PM   #11
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I talked to the owner. She has moisture in the hull coring and soft spots on the fly and foredeck.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #12
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I dunno. Seeing an ad with the price scares me. If one bought the boat with say, a resolution that one would spend another 40 K making it right, you'd still end up with a KK 42. But I'd pay for someone who's done a lot of the work, like Osprey Boatworks, MD, to go up there and give me the straight of it. The reconditioning of cored hulls is something they pioneered, KK's included.
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:16 PM   #13
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I talked to the owner. She has moisture in the hull coring and soft spots on the fly and foredeck.
Nothing to see here folks, move along
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #14
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I dunno. Seeing an ad with the price scares me. If one bought the boat with say, a resolution that one would spend another 40 K making it right, you'd still end up with a KK 42. But I'd pay for someone who's done a lot of the work, like Osprey Boatworks, MD, to go up there and give me the straight of it. The reconditioning of cored hulls is something they pioneered, KK's included.
Everything can be fixed or made better than new for a price. You just have to run the numbers and see if it makes sense for you. 5-15K for soft spots. 20-30K hull to the water line. Above waterline who knows?
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Old 11-28-2013, 07:47 AM   #15
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Here's a picture of the section removed, recored and reglassed on my boat. The engine vent leaked. Everything was above the waterline


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Old 11-28-2013, 12:35 PM   #16
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Without even looking at the boat, I'd say its a prime candidate for a refit making the boat as good as new.

Having been through a total refit, I would guess that by the time a good shipyard made the boat to like new condition, new gen, engine, everything you'd still be at or less than 225k and have a brand new boat

That makes it a great deal for a potential new owner with the means to make the boat new again.
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Old 11-28-2013, 08:55 PM   #17
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I talked to the owner. She has moisture in the hull coring and soft spots on the fly and foredeck.
I had the same response when I spoke with him and he indicted a repair quote of 20k to the water line. Sounded like this was/is a real problem with early PVC cored boats. It's a great boat but can this issue be corrected and does 20 grand sound reasonable? Just not sure this is worth following up on.
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The question should be what is the boat worth if the hull issues did not exist?

Answer that question and deduct the purchase price. If the hull can be made right with the difference or less it could be a good buy. Heal hustler mentioned an experienced yard in this thread.
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The question should be what is the boat worth if the hull issues did not exist? Answer that question and deduct the purchase price. If the hull can be made right with the difference or less it could be a good buy. Heal hustler mentioned an experienced yard in this thread.
I understand the economics just concerned about the science of fixing this type of problem. I'm waiting for a call back from Osprey to check on the repair possibilities. Who knows it could be a good deal.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:43 AM   #20
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My Krogen is a 1986. Oil canning consists of 4 deflections in the hull shape due to the use of an alternate to the specified PVC coring. It's not structural and does not need to be fixed, but if you do, Washburn's has the technique. Mine had extensive blistering when I bought it, so I had the hull peeled and post-cured using the Hotvac system. Relaminated and nary a blister since the work in about 2003. $25,000 for that work. You can search the site for more details. That is a really good price for a Krogen even of that vintage unless it's been sunk.
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