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Old 01-26-2016, 10:01 AM   #21
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"I can assure you, that the boat is mechanically and cosmetically in absolute
excellent condition.
Due to constant upgrades and improvements she definitely defies her age.
We just spent this summer 9 weeks with her in the Abaco's and everything
worked 100%.
She is definitely cruise ready!"


German cruiser - Great boat looks fantastic , good luck with the sale.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:13 AM   #22
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I did carefully read this in the pasted guidelines...
Second, posts demeaning or degrading the advertised item will not be tolerated. Such posts will be removed by the moderators.
The only thing degrading is a presumption by Sunchaser that the engine is degraded! However, if you actually believe that this is a demeaning post then please delete it because you're way out of line.

Oh my, is that a degrading comment because I questioned the authority of moderator????
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:22 AM   #23
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I am not a mod - easily read on my signature line.
The OP has entered a for sale advertisement.
The OP has a website showing what appears to be a fantastic boat.
The OP has stated it is in great mechanical shape.
I do not know the OP nor have I seen the boat but form what I read and see the boat and engines are surely in much better shape than 99% of the boats that I have seen.

Since reading all of that it appears counter intuitive to consider the engine to be pulled out unless someone has been on the boat.

German cruiser - great looking boat , good luck with the sale.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:26 AM   #24
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Sunchaser asked -
"If I was in the market for a less that $200K fifty foot trawler I'd be all over this. But condition, old Cat engine and prior upkeep is the key, a visit or two would answer these questions."


OP answered -
"I can assure you, that the boat is mechanically and cosmetically in absolute excellent condition. Due to constant upgrades and improvements she definitely defies her age. We just spent this summer 9 weeks with her in the Abaco's and everything worked 100%. She is definitely cruise ready!
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:07 AM   #25
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That boat is a steal. Anyone looking for a long distance, traveling live aboard on a budget, this should be your next look. BTW I am not related to the seller but I do know Cheoy Lee build quality and am a fan of Bill Garden's designs.
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:31 PM   #26
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I have recently (last November) been on this boat, and met the seller. It's everything he says it is. Unfortunately, it just wasn't the boat for us. If you're seriously in the market, do yourself a favor and check it out.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:44 PM   #27
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I can assure you, that the boat is mechanically and cosmetically in absolute
excellent condition.
Due to constant upgrades and improvements she definitely defies her age.
We just spent this summer 9 weeks with her in the Abaco's and everything
worked 100%.
She is definitely cruise ready!
Just one question are those zincs painted and how does that affect their performance?
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:00 PM   #28
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Those zincs are not painted. What you see on the photos are zincs covered with blue tape in order to avoid being painted.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:06 PM   #29
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I can't believe this engine issue so controversial. A heavy duty industrial engine with minimal hours in its life cycle. This is a no brainer for an owner looking for a long range cruiser. Beautiful vsl.
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:46 PM   #30
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Yup, a 4200 RPM VW diesel is just what this vessel needs
Anyone wanting to replace a Cat with a VW needs to see their doctor ASAP. Suspect a possible anal cranial infarction.
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:55 PM   #31
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Anyone wanting to replace a Cat with a VW needs to see their doctor ASAP. Suspect a possible anal cranial infarction.
Considered the post might be ironical?
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:57 PM   #32
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Anyone wanting to replace a Cat with a VW needs to see their doctor ASAP. Suspect a possible anal cranial infarction.
Truer words were never spoken. Amazing how this perfectly acceptable vessel has got so many knickers in a twist. Don't worry Stu, the EPA would not approve a VW insertion.

And Mako, please point out where I degraded the CAT engine.
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Old 01-26-2016, 09:27 PM   #33
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The good news is that any press is good press. Its going to take an experienced yachtsman who knows a real boat and can look past the internet fodder from hackers. This boat is the real deal (if it is in the condition described). Some smart yachtsman is going cruising.
Several peeps on this sight have been aboard and verify the condition. I'm not one of them. I have never seen this boat, don't know if it is represented in present condition but if its anywhere close to the pics (which I think it is), its a bargain if it passes survey. I would be VERY surprised if it didn't. Quality boats cost money, this is a gem! I want to see this boat next month in FP at the TF gathering (hoping to make it).
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Old 01-27-2016, 09:26 AM   #34
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Please come by and visit me at Harbortown Marina and see my Cheoy Lee LRC.
BTW great Marina, private, straight shot to inlet, bar/restaurant and boatyard on
premises.
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:30 PM   #35
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Is PilotHouse King your listing broker?
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Yes, indeed.
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:04 PM   #37
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Yes, indeed.
He used to post here but hasn't been around in awhile. He seemed to be a character.
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:14 PM   #38
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:07 AM   #39
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"Old mechanical engines don't like being driven at 20% engine load, as the OP stated."

YES BUT, most older engines are tolerant of long time under loading , as bulldozer engines idiling and light loading were daily norms..

AS truck engines many were idled for 8-12 hours every time they did a long trip.

Yes,, the longest engine life is with the engine powering a generator head , constant load , only a very few cold starts , oil changed on the fly , and proper diesel coolant.

SO WHAT ???, the engine that might run 12,000 hours in this ideal setting might loose 20% or 25% of its service life with too light loading, sitting months , cold starts , and a constant damp caused by the wet exhaust.

Most owner change oil more frequently than required (no oil analysis) which helps get rid of the acids from blowby from light loading.

So that 12,000 engine becomes a 10,000 hr engine before the oil consumption gets too high.

For most boats 10,000 hours , at the common white boat 200 hours a year is......FIFTY YEARS!!!

I would never swop an engine with many decades of service life left for a tiny car engine , even in theory that it should be "more efficient".

An old engine goes out to anchor service when it is less work to swop it out than find parts for.

Makes me a Detroit 6-71 fan , but there are lots of aftermarket items for most Cats too.
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German Cruiser.
I am pre-qualified for 130K, but it is too late now anyway.... :-((((
Beautiful boat, wonderful restoration! I would take it any day.
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