04-29-2014, 01:59 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
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Interesting: 1976 Gulf Star
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M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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04-29-2014, 02:10 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. O. Interesting indeed. NO photos or mention of power train/ER. Hmmmmm....I wouldn't even bother looking.
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04-29-2014, 02:13 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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The "highest quality custom trawler"? No offence to any Gulf Star owners but it's still a 38 year old Gulf Star.
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04-29-2014, 03:24 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. O. Interesting indeed. NO photos or mention of power train/ER. Hmmmmm....I wouldn't even bother looking.
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There are pictures in the CL ad. For more details you just need to follow the video link provided.
Boat Video Shop - 1976 gulfstar 60 | boat video shop | gulfstar 60 trawler
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04-29-2014, 03:34 PM
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Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Ugggh. Perkins turbos with manicoolers. No thanks.
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04-29-2014, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member
City: Great Lakes
Vessel Name: NONE
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Don't know the owner or anything about it's history but I've seen this boat up close & personal. It is in jaw dropping magnificent condition with every conceivable option. Who ever owns it lavished lots of love and obscene amounts of cash on it. The age is somewhat intimidating but seeing the "over the top" attention to the minutest detail, I would be very surprised if the hull & superstructure did not rival or surpass the soundness of a brand new vessel.
Oliver, great find but what on earth are you doing looking at other ladies? MV Oliver just might blow a piston to remind you to look the other way when something pretty passes by : )
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04-29-2014, 04:04 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Interesting
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Kangeroo
Don't know the owner or anything about it's history but I've seen this boat up close & personal. It is in jaw dropping magnificent condition with every conceivable option. Who ever owns it lavished lots of love and obscene amounts of cash on it. The age is somewhat intimidating but seeing the "over the top" attention to the minutest detail, I would be very surprised if the hull & superstructure did not rival or surpass the soundness of a brand new vessel.
Oliver, great find but what on earth are you doing looking at other ladies? MV Oliver just might blow a piston to remind you to look the other way when something pretty passes by : )
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I was actually looking for electronics when I came across it and it said quality custom trawler so that got me curious.
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M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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04-29-2014, 05:00 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. CB11. Thanks for the link. As I suspected, lipstick on a pig and the simple fact the ER appears to be a shambles negates Mr. CK's comment of "...the "over the top" attention to the minutest detail,..." IMO. Wouldn't go near it.
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04-29-2014, 05:24 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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I think the GS is an extended stern vessel and tis one looks extended again. As in the longest of the longest. I'll look at the link to see where the rudders are.
No bottom pics. I hate that. I suspect all the pics were taken by a broker w a wide wide angle lens camera to take pics of the inside of small cabins. The severe distortion is too big of a price to "get everything in".
Could be a wonderful boat but I'd want to see the keel and rudders before I'd uncover any other stones or consider the engines. There's a lot of top hamper sitting high above a rounded bottom hull. I think I'd pass.
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North Western Washington State USA
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04-29-2014, 06:10 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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[QUOTE=manyboats;230765 There's a lot of top hamper sitting high above a rounded bottom hull. I think I'd pass.[/QUOTE]
It's got stabilizers so it should have a nice ride.
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04-29-2014, 07:04 PM
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Guru
City: Flattop Islands
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
It's got stabilizers so it should have a nice ride.
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Until she turns turtle and drowns them all.....Tons of money spent on modifications but no idea what all that has done to stability.
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04-29-2014, 08:07 PM
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Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
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Yeah, I've seen this boat before so I can't yell "PhotoShop", but a big part of my income these days comes from photo-demos of high-dollar modifications like this. I'm sure this is a really beautiful boat, but the problem is that it looks PhotoShopped.
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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04-29-2014, 10:24 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tad Roberts
Until she turns turtle and drowns them all.....Tons of money spent on modifications but no idea what all that has done to stability.
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Turns turtle, that's a stretch. Modifications like the ones seen in this boat are done all the time and boats are not flipping over right and left. But all you'd have to do is request to see the stability test results done after the modifications. If there is not one require one be done prior to purchase.
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04-29-2014, 10:42 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
Yeah, I've seen this boat before so I can't yell "PhotoShop", but a big part of my income these days comes from photo-demos of high-dollar modifications like this. I'm sure this is a really beautiful boat, but the problem is that it looks PhotoShopped.
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I must be missing something.Because none of the photos look PhotoShopped to me. Which photos are you talking about?
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04-30-2014, 07:55 AM
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Senior Member
City: Great Lakes
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RTF, have a snickers bar, your not you when your hungry.
Your right about the engine room, didn't catch that. There is clearly a fortune worth of new equipment in there, not sure I'd call it a pig but it's certainly difficult to reconcile the apparent lack of love here with the rest of the boat. In the least you would think during the engine & genny replacement they would have taken the opportunity to spiff it up by covering the walls and ceiling with some modern sound barrier / insulation.
As with the others, I too wondered about the stability with all the modifications above & below and I think Capt Bills idea of a stability test would be a must. The freeboard also seems much lower than I recall for the Gulfstar's but maybe it's just an optical illusion.
Still, I would find it hard to believe this was a DIY project gone wild, based on the complex engineering required and the obvious workmanship, much of this work had to have been done by professionals. One thing is certain though, they will never come close to recovering the horrific amount of money that has been poured into it.
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04-30-2014, 09:22 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Stability aside, the boat in the photo is typical in its modifications to a few boats in our Alaskan harbor.
Up here adding a hard enclosure to the flying bridge seems to be a pretty popular, abet really ugly modification.
The fish boats do it quite a bit, as well as the recreational boats. They're just trying to get a warm dry place to drive the boat from.
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04-30-2014, 09:26 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. CK. It's hard to make light of the lack of attention to, what I consider, a very important area of a vessel. That being said, MY ER definitely needs a good detailing but it's still WAY better than what I see in the sales photos. In the first ER pic' it appears the water intake hoses are single clamped and in the last, an exit thru hull is single clamped as well. That's just what I can SEE. And what the heck is that net thing to the right in the last ER shot? Football netting?
I have no idea how much one would have to spend to clean up the area but there was a thread about a boat for sale recently (and I can't find it of course-had blue engine stringers) that was drop dead gorgeous. THAT one I would think seriously about if I was in the market.
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04-30-2014, 09:50 AM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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I think you are making a lot of negative assumptions based on just a few pictures. You would really need to see this space in person to get a true idea of it's condition.
To me it just looks like there are a lot of systems in a small space. I see several hoses with 2 clamps. And 1 or 2 without. Big deal, buy a few clamps. It's a used boat after all.
One of the hoses in that picture is not a water line by the way but the hydraulic fluid return line to the pump for the stabilizers. And is not under much, if any, pressure.
The "football net" is I believe one of the protective screens in front of the engines belts and pulleys.
Could the space look better? Sure. Deal breaker from what I see in the pictures? Hardly.
And in fact if you take the time to watch the video, or just scroll towards the end of it, the engine room looks much cleaner and squared away than it does in the pictures.
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04-30-2014, 10:35 AM
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Guru
City: Walnut Grove Ca
Vessel Name: Cary'D Away
Vessel Model: Hatteras 48 LRC
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A lot of boat for the money
Anybody want to guess what replacement cost would be for this boat new? Assuming there is only 25% of useful life left it's still not a bad deal. After 6 years of relatively trouble free boating with a new boat the replacement game begins and it's ongoing maintenance from then on. I'll bet the paint job alone pushes a 100k on this boat. Unfortunately there is a lot of teak trim on these older Gulfstars to maintain. But look at the livability. The master stateroom is isolated from guests. Real appliances and airconditioning, at least 40k in stabilizer parts alone if you had to buy them. What would a new 60' Nordhavn or Kadey Krogan or Hatteras cost? 1.5 to 2M.
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04-30-2014, 10:45 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,671
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Below is a marketing brochure from Gulfstar. Interesting the length vs what the guy selling it is saying (assuming I have the correct boat).
Gulfstar created many Trawler models but the largest production model was the 53'. Less than 10 models were reportedly built between 1975 and 1976. The construction had a trawler body built onto the deep round- bildge and full-displacement hull that was used for the Gulfstar 53' Motorsailer (Sailboat). The GS 53 Trawler is reported to be very sea-friendly with an easy motion due to the low center of gravity - stabilized in part by the lower location of the fuel tanks.
The GS 53 Trawler was fitted with twin 160hp Perkins diesels rated at 6 g.p.h . when running in the 8-9 knot range.
Belowdecks is a 3-stateroom layout. It came with a choice of twin-berths or a walkaround double in the aft cabin. It has a very spacious dinette and galley area and features a teak interior.
General Specs:
Length: 53' 2"
Length WL 47' 3"
Beam 15'
Draft 4' 6"
Weight 42000 lbs.
Clearance 14'
Fuel 1000 gals.
Water 300 gals.
Headroom 6' 5"
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