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Old 10-19-2015, 08:36 PM   #81
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I think his steering problems are helm pump specific.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:28 PM   #82
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Not so the first time I filled it, and not so with the port tank. The vents appear to be clear.


Wow! I had the same problem. Tank filled fine until last summer then the starboard tank could only be filled at a trickle. Turned out the vent hose was too long and had a sag which got a slug of fuel preventing air from escaping during filling.

Solution was shorten the hose and make sure it rose from tank to vent. Hope you have good access.

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Old 10-19-2015, 11:26 PM   #83
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Pretty hard to estimate, I'd guess 15 to 20 degrees with the beam seas, except one rogue wave that might have got us to 35 degrees.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:30 PM   #84
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I don't have a clue where the vent hose is. No schematics came with boat. Not sure if the are any devices in the line. Thought I saw something about that in all the documentation I did receive with boat, but have been unable to locate since. I guess some more exploration in the enginevroom is in order.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:33 PM   #85
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I do know that the vent oitlet is close to the water line, so it runs uphill to the tank. There could be a trap somewhere though.
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Old 11-26-2016, 01:58 PM   #86
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2004 Mariner 38 here

Wanted a 40 but settled on a 38 because of a great price at the time. The size difference is all in the cockpit depth. Other than that they are identical.
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Old 11-26-2016, 02:15 PM   #87
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Looks like you have a Europa style. The new Helmsman company is not building that model. The old Mariner Seville Pilothouse is the Helmsman 38 of today.
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Old 11-26-2016, 06:02 PM   #88
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An old thread continuing. I recently saw an advert for Mariner 40, and realized how much it resembles the Clipper 40, sold here until at least 2008. Clipper Yachts in Australia claim to own the moulds in China, maybe there are different versions of the moulds, certainly the interior fitout was different with the galley aft in a pic I saw, whereas the local ones have the galley forward to port.
Most Clipper 40s here come with a Cummins 230 or 270 single(and are located north in Queensland), though there have been Cummins twin 220s and 270s fitted. They seem well designed and built boats,with good use of space and high finish quality. I`ve only inspected a 2004 model with single with thrusters both ends, I noticed the side seating bases on the FB had delaminated from the deck and been repaired, perhaps more than once, raising the possibility of water entry to the FB deck.
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:23 PM   #89
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I have a friend with the Mariner Orient 40 He has had water intrusion problems in several deck furniture components. Our boat (Mariner 37/ H38) seems to have been built with honeycomb core everywhere, and so far, no problems.
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Old 11-28-2016, 01:04 PM   #90
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So far, No water problem on our 2007 Mariner 40. And we are really liking this boat!

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Old 11-28-2016, 06:23 PM   #91
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So far, No water problem on our 2007 Mariner 40. And we are really liking this boat.
As a 2007 model, does it have stainless steel window frames, partial staircase to FB, and lose the teak strip(?covering a join) around the front of the FB? Those seem to be update refinements on "Clipper" branded boats sold here, from 2005/6.
As you like your boat,I hope you might help me with some information. How long have you owned it? What`s it like in nasty sea conditions? What engine(s) do you have? What thrusters are fitted? How is the close quarters handling for docking etc? Any wave slap heard in the main stateroom at anchor?
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:00 AM   #92
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We do not have the SS window frames. Actually a couple of them are corroding some. We do have a 3 step base before the ladder to the FB that the propane tanks are in. And there is no teak strip around the front of the FB.
We have had her for almost 3 years and cruise mostly on the West coast of Florida, down to the Keyes and back. We try not to get out into nasty sea conditions, but when we find ourselves in rougher than we like, we retreat to the lower helm and find a greater level of comfort.
We have a Cummins 230 hp single engine and usually cruise around 7 kts at around 2 gph. We do have a bow thruster, so in most conditions, docking is not much of an issue. I must be extra careful when there is a crosswind and adjust accordingly.
Yes, there is wave slap in the forward stateroom that we've become somewhat accustomed to except in extremely choppy anchorages. If it's that bad, we can comfortably sleep in the salon.
We moved to the Mariner from an Island Packet 37 that was an awesome boat. These are 2 completely different boats and handleing them is different as well. There is a learning curve going from sail to single engine power.


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Old 11-29-2016, 05:49 PM   #93
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I appreciate the information Wm. The window variation suggests the Aussie importer/builder has input to the build. The 230 Cummins is usual here, one for sale has twin 270s, overpowered to my mind. A recently sold 2004 had twin 220s. All have bowthrusters,some add sternthrusters.
I see the boat as an traditional trawler, updated in fitout and features. Boats sold here have a frame at the aft end of the FB, with a crane,for the dinghy. It is good you are enjoying yours, lots of trawler owners come from sailboats. Were I to sell the IG36, a Mariner/Clipper would be a natural step up.
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Boats sold here have a frame at the aft end of the FB, with a crane,for the dinghy.


I would like to see a picture of the Dinghy frame and lift.
I am trying to figure out just what type of dinghy davit system I want.
We use the swim platform for boarding at the dock, so would like to be able to get around any stern mounted system. Also we would like to be able to quickly launch and retrieve the dink.
Now, I remove the engine, hoist it to the FB aft rail, then lift the dinghy up to the upper deck. We use a Garhauer lift for lifting.


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Old 11-30-2016, 03:52 PM   #95
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Wmiii, here is the link to an advertisement for a now sold Clipper 40 which clearly shows the cantilevered frame for the dinghy.Used Clipper 40 for Sale | Boats For Sale | Yachthub
Some other boats have an aft FB extension with the dinghy sitting above it. If you search at Yachts & Boats for Sale in Australia & New Zealand | Yachthub for "Clipper 40 using "Boat Search"you will see 3 more boats advertised, carrying dinghies in this way. As all boats seem to have them it seems to be "factory" fitted.
It could be a Clipper only modification, so be sure the area has the strength to carry the frame and dinghy and that Clipper models are not strengthened to facilitate the design. Perhaps Mariner Yachts can help.
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We had the same issue with a port fuel tank and discovered a plastic bottle cap which appeared to have come off of a fuel additive container had lodged in the boat's fill pipe. Fortunately, with long pair or needle nose pliers we managed to extract the cap and the problem went away.
We also once had a mud-wasp nest partially clog up the fuel tank vent and that proved to be an issue when filling the tank. We removed the vent and soaked it is some soapy water then cleaned out the screen with the end of a plastic wire tie.
Good luck this problem; is a pain but should not be costly to resolve.
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