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Old 10-26-2012, 01:59 PM   #41
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Looking at a Mariner 40

I am looking at two Mariner 40's right now. A look at the Helmsmen site lists this boat as a 38 sedan 2 stateroom... One is a 2005, the other 2007. Pretty much the same boat, a few minor differences.

One of the boats has what looks like hundreds of pounds of small concrete blocks down in the lower bilge. What's up with that?

Both of these boats have issues that make it difficult for me to make an offer.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:29 PM   #42
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Greetings,
Mr. Sharkey. I know nothing of Mariner Yachts but the simple fact of the matter is, if both boats you are interested in have "issues", walk away and be prepared to do the same with ANY vessel you are not comfortable with.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:26 AM   #43
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If the concrete blocks are on one side only of the hull,they may be balancing weight on the other side( fittings,batteries,fridge,genset,whatever..). If both sides, that may say something about design/stability.
But I don`t know these boats. With due respect, you may heed the wisdom of RTF. BruceK
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Mr. Sharkey. I know nothing of Mariner Yachts but the simple fact of the matter is, if both boats you are interested in have "issues", walk away and be prepared to do the same with ANY vessel you are not comfortable with.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #45
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Been in business for quite a while 37 Seville pilot house is an interesting layout.
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Just saw your post. I have had one of these for almost 3 years now. Did you have any questions?

The boat has a very innovative interior plan and is well built. I've taken it to Alaska and it does as well as expected in the exposed water crossing. My only compliant is that the builder, Steve Smith, is a liar and will cheat you if given a chance but he does build a good boat. If you where to order a new boat, do not believe anything he says would be my advise.

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thanks for the info. I will strike mariner off my list of boats to buy.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:16 PM   #46
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Helmsman just confirmed a new 38 PilotHouse will be at the Miami Boat Show in February. Very beamy interior and all wooded out in sumptuous style. Fitted with a yanmar, and designed for fun and adventure. Come see us!!!!
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Helmsman

I'm new to yachting and have been researching a boat to buy since last August. I spent quite a bit of time with Scott at the Seattle boat show this weekend and have come away from the experience with a favourable assessment of his character and capability. So much so, that I'm already part way through the process of ordering a new boat from him.

I've been assured by Scott that the "other guy"- who I'm assuming is the person that's not spoken of highly in this thread- is gone from the scene.

I don't object to the posts from dw8929, although he speaks a bit vaguely.

I'll update this thread as we go through what I expect to be a very enjoyable experience, if people are interested in what I have to say?
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Welcome aboard. I'm sure you will have a FAR more enjoyable experience ordering a new boat through Scott than I had dealing with the "other guy".

Please do keep the thread updated as I for one, would enjoy hearing of your experience.

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Greetings,
Mr. Sharkey. I know nothing of Mariner Yachts but the simple fact of the matter is, if both boats you are interested in have "issues", walk away and be prepared to do the same with ANY vessel you are not comfortable with.
RT, there is no perfect boat. Isnt the idea to find the vessel that has the least issues that are not easily fixed at a price within your budget? Blonde sense
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:15 AM   #50
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Question 40' Mariner Yachts International Sedan

My husband and I are planning to buy a trawler in the next few months. Does anyone out there own one of the 40' Mariner Yachts? Or if you know someone who owns one. I would really like your opinion, if you do. There are so many different brands, it is mind boggling.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #51
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Owners manual

Turns out experience has been the best owners manual. Almost 2 years now, have made a lot of upgrades to fix issues mostly related to installed systems, not really the builders fault. This week switching over to smart plugs. Thanks for the input.
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Is this "Mariner" the same company that produced the Mariner 38 Orient?
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I don't think so. Mariner Yachts International, now Helmsman Yachts.
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Happy Thought,

Thanks for your reply. Having trouble finding out anything about the Mariner 38 Orient trawler. We're new to trawlering and trying to research this vessel. Know anything? Have an opinion on what would be a good trawler with 2 berths, covered cockpit, flybridge and helm in the under $200k range?
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Smessick, unfortunately I do not know the Mariner Orient. I look at trawlers a lot and know what you seek. Ours is everything that you want except for that 2nd stateroom. Sleeps 5 but one in pilot house and two more in salon due to a queen sofa bed. We love our boat, Mariner Seville 37, most used one are asking near 300k. Mainship comes to mind, there are plenty out there and deals to be had. They are light and can be uncomfortable in heavy chop according to two owners that I know but all boats under 3 million bucks have trade offs. I think that if you can find a good Krogen 42 (older) that would do it. Best regards, Jeff
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I stand corrected. Looks like the Mariner 38 Orient is from the same company as mine. One for sale in Baltimore, a 2004. I can tell you that we are happy with our boat's build quality, handling and overall engineering. What isn't right at least can be accessed easily and correct (so far). Nice woodwork. Probably cam from the same factory as ours, ours is a 2008. Factory support? Not sure. Helmsman Yachts now brings in what used to be the Mariner line. They seem like nice folks and people on this forum have said nice things about them. Massey sales in Florida represents them on the east coast. I have not had the bad dealings that others had with the company. We bought a 2008 in 2011 so missed the whole dealing with the delays, commissioning etc.. thing. Paul Burbach handled our purchase and is one of the finest brokers I have ever known. I would buy a boat from him again in a second. Good luck, keep me posted.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:23 PM   #57
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Seville doors

Hi Ron, appreciate the advice offer. Have made a lot of improvements and only one issue so far that is nagging me, the doors. As I live near Island Yacht Brokers I actually bought thee now doors and hardware from Steve Jr. When he was liquidating hardware. Good deal and nice to have spares but it did not take long for port door to start hanging up again. Any good ideas or fixes to keep the doors working properly?

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What about the headroom on this boat, I am 6'4" (at least)
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Hi Ron, appreciate the advice offer. Have made a lot of improvements and only one issue so far that is nagging me, the doors. As I live near Island Yacht Brokers I actually bought thee now doors and hardware from Steve Jr. When he was liquidating hardware. Good deal and nice to have spares but it did not take long for port door to start hanging up again. Any good ideas or fixes to keep the doors working properly?

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We just got back from our 3 month summer cruise to northern BC and I just saw this. I too, am having problems with both pilothouse doors hanging up. My wife, expecially is constantly knocking them out of the lower track and I have to go outside to lift the door back in place. The salon door however works wonderfully. With that door, I found that the upper track wasn't parallel with the bottom track by 1/4 in. so after that was corrected it works great.

I made some measurments on the pilothouse doors and the tracks are pretty close to parallel, not perfect however. I think I need to remove the doors so I can make a more accurate measurment for parallelism between the tracks.

I know you should have the upper slide track hold the weight of the door and the lower track should just keep the door in place. This is a very fine adjustment and seems to be affected by heat or cold because of expansion of the door.

The new boats have replace the fiberglass doors with aluminum and I understand they work better.

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What about the headroom on this boat, I am 6'4" (at least)
Your best bet would be to get on a Helmsman 38 and see how it fits but I think you would be OK with 6' 4".

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