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Old 03-28-2017, 09:56 AM   #41
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Depends on wind weather and current. . When baking into the slip we set a spring line first so i can back against it and hold the boat in position against the dock. So Cristina hops onto the dock in those approaches and secures the spring. Otherwise she takes the stern. For locking she is usually positioned on the upper deck. We prefer to dock with no dock hand help. They often won't listen to our requests and do not understand how to deploy a spring line.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:32 AM   #42
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I guess I will be researching the proper use of a spring line on a single engine boat

Thanks for the help!
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:41 AM   #43
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Springs are just as, or even more effective on a twin screw...
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:56 PM   #44
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I drive from the upper helm so I can clearly see around the boat. I just like to see all around without some limitations from the lower helm. I also have a camera pointing to the swim platform to see how close it is to the dock.


Tadhana is right about people helping you from the dock. Most don't know a spring line from a fender!
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Thanks for the input, but did you mean a rope from a bumper? Does anyone know how many of our RPH boats were sold in the U.S.?
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:34 AM   #47
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Looking at a couple of Mariner Sevilles on Yachtworld and it appears the hull of the Helmsman 38 is slightly longer and the beam is slightly less. Are they in fact different hulls or are the dimensions listed on YW in error?
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Old 09-03-2017, 11:43 AM   #48
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Mariner 37/ Helmsman 38

The hull length and beam are identical. Same molds. The latest have a slightly flatter pilothouse roof, and the top deck has been extended to provide a bit better protection for the cockpit. Also have improved rain gutters. There are some other minor improvements such as the inlay in the salon table, and a notch to reduce head bump when descending stairs frm pilothouse to salon. These are really fine boats, both in design and construction. The quality is exceptional, comparable to multi-million dollar mega-yachts. If these were built in USA, price would be well over 1.5 million dollars. Good luck.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:25 PM   #49
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The hulls are the same. The keel is changed. The rudder is now 2' further aft. Saw Scott in Seattle last Sunday. He gave me the full tour of the 31 and 43. Beautiful built and finished! The H 38e will be displayed at trawlerfest and the Annapolis boat show.
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Tadhana, is your boat branded as a Mariner? Also, what model year was the keel and rudder extended aft by 2 feet?
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:48 PM   #51
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Mariner Seville Pilothouse Hull #16 delivered 2009. The lying cheating scumbag importer had just acquired Camino and in some sort of business scam gave the boat a Comano HIN?... I have known Scott and Lisa for about 10 years. I do a bit of work with them from time to time, so we rebadged the boat as a Helmsman. I do not know exactly when they modified the keel/rudder
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Thanks for the info guys.
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at which hull number did they move the rudder back 2'
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I do not know exactly which hull number was the first with the new rudder/propeller configuration. It would probably have been in 2015 or so, but Scott can tell you for sure. In my career, I have designed and built boat professionally. I played around with the rudder design a bit, and finally settled on adding 2 inches to the leading edge of the rudder. It made all the difference in the world. adding to the leading edge is far more efficient and effective than adding to the trailing edge and it also reduces the steering loads on the entire system. PM me for pictures.
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I do not know exactly which hull number was the first with the new rudder/propeller configuration. It would probably have been in 2015 or so, but Scott can tell you for sure. In my career, I have designed and built boat professionally. I played around with the rudder design a bit, and finally settled on adding 2 inches to the leading edge of the rudder. It made all the difference in the world. adding to the leading edge is far more efficient and effective than adding to the trailing edge and it also reduces the steering loads on the entire system. PM me for pictures.
I was hoping to get some of those photos your talking about.
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