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Old 03-31-2016, 04:21 PM   #1
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The T-word again!

I am filling in a form for property taxes on my boat (welcome to California.) You can see I had to choose between Trawler and Motor Yacht (amongst others). What should I do?

As you can see from the second part of the form one of the possible usages is Commercial Fishing.

I decided Stillwater is a Motor Yacht and not a Trawler.

Not trying to stir anything up of course
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:06 PM   #2
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I would fill in inflatable and declare the KK the tender to...at least for tax purposes...

Put down trawler and be done with it.... if they ask what you fish for then worry about it...or tell them it doesn't matter because you checked pleasure use.

At least in my world... people seem to know what a recreational trawler is...it is only a few here on TF that want to argue it.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:21 PM   #3
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I'd do whatever cost the least.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:32 PM   #4
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I would move out of California. No taxes on the boat and my state registration is $42 a year.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:45 PM   #5
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I would move out of California. No taxes on the boat and my state registration is $42 a year.
I guess I never realized the extensive cruising grounds available in South Dakota.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:56 PM   #6
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I'd do whatever cost the least.
I don't think there's a difference in cost. There's a flat rate as far as I know.
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I would fill in inflatable and declare the KK the tender to...at least for tax purposes...

Put down trawler and be done with it.... if they ask what you fish for then worry about it...or tell them it doesn't matter because you checked pleasure use.

At least in my world... people seem to know what a recreational trawler is...it is only a few here on TF that want to argue it.
I'm assuming that since commercial fishing is an option then trawler means a fishing boat.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:58 PM   #8
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I would move out of California. No taxes on the boat and my state registration is $42 a year.
If I had a dollar for every time someone has suggested that I move out of Cakifornia then I could probably afford to live here!
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I'm assuming that since commercial fishing is an option then trawler means a fishing boat.
Nope....look at the selections, do you see longliner, purse seiner, gillnetter, etc, etc....? Look what is on both sides of the trawler selection....a list of fishing boat types?

They mean exactly what you and I have and about 99% of the boaters I know would agree...only some here who actually think they have a handle on things keep arguing what a tiny bit of research quickly proves ignorant.

Even the state knows that people have a good idea what a trawler is and have it listed.

You can put down whatever you want and not too much can be argued one way or the other....but please stop listening to the chest beaters on here.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:24 PM   #10
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Nope....look at the selections, do you see longliner, purse seiner, gillnetter, etc, etc....? Look what is on both sides of the trawler selection....a list of fishing boat types?

They mean exactly what you and I have and about 99% of the boaters I know would agree...only some here who actually think they have a handle on things keep arguing what a tiny bit of research quickly proves ignorant.

Even the state knows that people have a good idea what a trawler is and have it listed.

You can put down whatever you want and not too much can be argued one way or the other....but please stop listening to the chest beaters on here.
I guess I did succeed in stirring things up - not a surprise!

I doesn't make any difference in the end - I'll get charged the same!

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Old 03-31-2016, 07:32 PM   #11
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Not stirred up...just advising how to accurately fill out a form you asked about.

No skin off my nose no matter what you put down...just hard for me to believe a few people I haven't even met can alter others opinion even when the state thinks is normal.

Have at it either way....I had a harder time tying to answer what a RHIB was....
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You have a very nice looking motor yacht.
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You have a very nice looking motor yacht.
Wifey B: Oh, did he get rid of his Trawler?
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Wifey B. Zakly!!!! He actually does have a TRAWLER.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:46 PM   #15
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Greetings,
Golly, no place to check off LRC (Long Range Cruiser) and she's displacement with a round bottom...So many choices, so little time...
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...but please stop listening to the chest beaters on here.
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Property taxes on a boat???! Please don`t tell the friendly Australian Taxation Office(ATO). That`s one they`ve not thought of. Yet.
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Old 03-31-2016, 11:04 PM   #18
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I would move out of California. No taxes on the boat and my state registration is $42 a year.
I about fell off my chair when I read this....
You have about $ 30.00 worth of weather and water in S.D...

Your getting ripped off!
The year around cruising and plethora of places to go makes the California taxes worth it.

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Old 03-31-2016, 11:16 PM   #19
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I was living in Santa Barbara, Ca, when Prop. 13 rolled back the property taxes. The state and local governments were looking for any excuse to get more money. I owned a 15ft MacGregor catamaran and I got a property tax bill for it in the mail. Their assessed value was three times the price of a new boat. I sent them classified adds of comparable boats. They wouldn't budge, so I ended up giving the boat to my neighbor and his son. I should mention I was a starving student at the time. Also, all the cat owners kept their boats at the city beach all summer. This had been going on for years. The city decided they had to buy permits to leave their boats there. In one week all the boats were gone. I don't miss California at all.
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You have a very nice looking motor yacht.
Thanks!

Kadey-Krogen described it as a "Passagemaking Trawler" and a "Trawler Yacht" in their original brochure.
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