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Old 01-02-2019, 02:56 PM   #1
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Surveyor Recommendations Northeast US - NYC

Anyone have a recommendation in the NYC area?

Fiberglass 30-50ft diesel.

I'm most concerned with hull/decks.
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Old 01-02-2019, 03:39 PM   #2
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Anyone have a recommendation in the NYC area?

Fiberglass 30-50ft diesel.

I'm most concerned with hull/decks.
I would focus your effort on finding the right boat and doing as much due diligence as you can. 35-50' diesel is quite the range. You have at least a dozen steps to go in the process before its time to find a surveyor. It is very difficult to survey boats in the north east between Jan-Mar due to cold and that most boats are winterized, shrink wrapped, etc.
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I would focus your effort on finding the right boat and doing as much due diligence as you can. 35-50' diesel is quite the range. You have at least a dozen steps to go in the process before its time to find a surveyor. It is very difficult to survey boats in the north east between Jan-Mar due to cold and that most boats are winterized, shrink wrapped, etc.
I wondered how much detail/pre-explaining I should do.

I have found some candidates, and done a massive amount of research (avid reader) and have some experience. This particular boat is in the water and not winterized (kept as a live-aboard).
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I wondered how much detail/pre-explaining I should do.

I have found some candidates, and done a massive amount of research (avid reader) and have some experience. This particular boat is in the water and not winterized (kept as a live-aboard).
Ok didn't know you have a particular boat in mind because you gave a 35-50' range. Is there a marina willing to haul the boat for survey? Most marinas in the north east are now shutdown and no longer operating their lifts for haul outs. I would be verifying that there is a marina able to do the haul out otherwise you may have to wait until April.
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Ok didn't know you have a particular boat in mind because you gave a 35-50' range. Is there a marina willing to haul the boat for survey? Most marinas in the north east are now shutdown and no longer operating their lifts for haul outs. I would be verifying that there is a marina able to do the haul out otherwise you may have to wait until April.
I am told there is.
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Try my Good friend Jerry Zingale AMS in Brooklyn. One of the very best in the business.

Gerard V. Zingale - Accredited Marine Surveyor - 2009
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I understand you have some experience but this may help.
Marine Survey 101
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Try my Good friend Jerry Zingale AMS in Brooklyn. One of the very best in the business.

Gerard V. Zingale - Accredited Marine Surveyor - 2009
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I understand you have some experience but this may help.
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Some experience means not all, not ever enough, I appreciate any and all advice. That link is literally on my screen at work about one third read. Great stuff!
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Out of curiosity why are you not concerned about engines/genset/etc?
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Out of curiosity why are you not concerned about engines/genset/etc?
Because I know a bit about diesel engines and the max cost is easy to know. Full replacement. Doesn't total the boat.

Hull and deck repair vary wildly. I can handle an engine replacement myself, but not a hull.

And not that I'm not concerned at all, just not number one for me.
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Because I know a bit about diesel engines and the max cost is easy to know. Full replacement. Doesn't total the boat.

Hull and deck repair vary wildly. I can handle an engine replacement myself, but not a hull.

And not that I'm not concerned at all, just not number one for me.
Its one thing to know and its another to have something that can be used as a negotiation tool...but since you are already looking for a surveyor, I am guessing you have already negotiated a # assuming everything is good with the hull and deck so I'll shut up now
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Its one thing to know and its another to have something that can be used as a negotiation tool...but since you are already looking for a surveyor, I am guessing you have already negotiated a # assuming everything is good with the hull and deck so I'll shut up now
It's all good, survey will be part of negotiation, and I would like survey to include engine, but it's just not my focus. I need help where I know the least and I prefer to help those helping me by giving an idea of what I'm looking for and where I know the least. I know the least about fiberglass and composites.

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It's all good, survey will be part of negotiation, and I would like survey to include engine, but it's just not my focus. I need help where I know the least and I prefer to help those helping me by giving an idea of what I'm looking for and where I know the least. I know the least about fiberglass and composites.

Thanks!
Most surveyors have nothing to do with engine, genset, mechanicals. Sure they may note visual appearance and join on a sea trial but you would need a mechanic that specializes in that make/model engine, genset if you want a report that is not topical.
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