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Old 06-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #21
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Was that boat wrapped up in fiberglass when it was built. Or did the glass come later in it's life.Just curious about that.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:45 PM   #22
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Well, I CAN say he was thorough...so, please forgive my lack of USA experience but is it not the case that the CG can board you and 'book' you for items not up to standards ?
ABYC Standards are voluntary but widely accepted by North American courts as "the" standard of good marine practice.

The United States Code and the Code of Federal Reulations, Title 46 covers the mandatory legal requirements of equipment that must be carried, electrical systems installation, ventilation systems for gasoline powered boats, fuel systems and a number of other things.

You can sift through thousands of pages of Title 46 (most of which has nothing to do with boats) on-line for the pages relevant to boats or you can buy a paperback book from ABYC with all the relevant excerpts.

Title 46 is not nearly as comprehensive as the ABYC standards and many marine insurance companies do require ABYC compliance for some electrical issues, LPG systems, fuel systems and anything else that may blow you up or set you on fire. It is entirely within their perogative to demand compliance with any standard they see fit.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #23
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I recieved his permission...this is the surveyor...


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Old 06-19-2013, 10:50 PM   #24
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Was that boat wrapped up in fiberglass when it was built. Or did the glass come later in it's life.Just curious about that.
It was glassed, heavily, when it was first built...
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:53 PM   #25
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ABYC Standards are voluntary but widely accepted by North American courts as "the" standard of good marine practice.

The United States Code and the Code of Federal Reulations, Title 46 covers the mandatory legal requirements of equipment that must be carried, electrical systems installation, ventilation systems for gasoline powered boats, fuel systems and a number of other things.

You can sift through thousands of pages of Title 46 (most of which has nothing to do with boats) on-line for the pages relevant to boats or you can buy a paperback book from ABYC with all the relevant excerpts.

Title 46 is not nearly as comprehensive as the ABYC standards and many marine insurance companies do require ABYC compliance for some electrical issues, LPG systems, fuel systems and anything else that may blow you up or set you on fire. It is entirely within their perogative to demand compliance with any standard they see fit.
Thankyou Gentlemen, I will be doing a LOT of reading and investigation before I make any moves....
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:57 PM   #26
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Lucky you on both counts.We have used Dixieland as well.very impressed and highly detailed reports.
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Take a look at Dicks website he has some very informative articles.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:30 AM   #28
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No..the USCG can only go after "safety gear requirements and a few others like MSD stuff" as you are an uninspected vessel (unless you are carrying passengers for hire)...most USCG boarding teams wouldn't know an ABYC "suggestion" from the Wall Street Journal.
Exactly!!

Too many boaters get soooo unnecessarily paranoid! There are many false notions regarding what can/can't be done by boat owners and by boarding officials such as the CG. IMHO... just keep your boat in good condition, have necessary safety equipment aboard, carry registration/insurance papers, and practice good/safe boatmanship.

Then - - > Go Enjoy! After all this is “Pleasure Boating”!!
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That's great news sounds like you got yourself a well built boat . Our boat is also a conversion from a small longliner. Yea it still has some of the fish funk hanging around but getting better everyday . We just ran 40 miles yesterday at 6.9 knots .It was perfect for us . There are enough fast boats around here with all the bass tournaments . Sometimes it looks like NASCAR on the water.
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The only other thing I was advised was to look into changing the gear box (and then prop) for a different ratio as she is still set for shrimping speed but I am really not in a hurry so 7 knots is fine for me...all in all, a good result.

As a guess the existing gear is 6-1 or 4.5-1 so the engine can get up on the HP curve and tow a couple of tons of nets.

The actual power required to power the boat , sans nets will be very much lower.

However the cost of a different gearbox and prop work would probably never be recovered with fuel savings.

IF the tranny blew , it might be time to contemplate a different gear ratio.


The electric will be fine , just remember when dockside playing with the DC stuff must be done with care behind the combined switch box..
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The only other thing I was advised was to look into changing the gear box (and then prop) for a different ratio as she is still set for shrimping speed but I am really not in a hurry so 7 knots is fine for me...all in all, a good result.

As a guess the existing gear is 6-1 or 4.5-1 so the engine can get up on the HP curve and tow a couple of tons of nets.

The actual power required to power the boat , sans nets will be very much lower.

However the cost of a different gearbox and prop work would probably never be recovered with fuel savings.

IF the tranny blew , it might be time to contemplate a different gear ratio.


The electric will be fine , just remember when dockside playing with the DC stuff must be done with care behind the combined switch box..
My thinking exactly, if the trans gives up (goes west, south or anywhere it shouldnt LOL) then I might change it up, for now its fine....although when I used the prop calculator on the website the other Gent suggested it did give me a totally different number than whats currently on her. But, if it aint broke I won't be 'fixing' it...
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Exactly!!

Too many boaters get soooo unnecessarily paranoid! There are many false notions regarding what can/can't be done by boat owners and by boarding officials such as the CG. IMHO... just keep your boat in good condition, have necessary safety equipment aboard, carry registration/insurance papers, and practice good/safe boatmanship.

Then - - > Go Enjoy! After all this is “Pleasure Boating”!!
Excellent advice, thankyou !
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IF the engine gives up you might contemplate a far smaller engine , bolted to that really deep reduction gear.
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IF the engine gives up you might contemplate a far smaller engine , bolted to that really deep reduction gear.
I was actually thinking that, the prop calculator page stated that a startlingly small amount of HP was needed to push it to hull speed....surprising to say the least...
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