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Old 12-28-2012, 08:37 AM   #1
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How about those Jeffersons?

OK a little background here... I am new to this site, we own a Gibson 44 and have cruised the Cumberland River and part of the Tennessee River. We are avid boaters and spend most of our free time on the water. Retirement is coming soon, so we plan on selling the old farm and moving to the water full time. The plan is to go to a Trawler type craft for more versatility and safety in all conditions. We have been out in some very rough storms in the Gibson, so we have experience on the water. The Great Loop, Eastern Coast, winters in Florida or Bahamas are all on the agenda. We have been to Trawler Fest and shopping for several years now. We like a lot of features of the Jefferson, but chatter about them is mysteriously absent on the net?? They have been around for years, so one would think that there would be some discussion on their performance history, good or bad. With all of the experience on this forum, I might have found the right place. How are they?
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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A friend had a Jefferson in the 44 to 46 range....it was a nice boat. If I remember correctly though...and do correct me if I am wrong...it seemed to me that the furniture was "built in"....in the salon.... Our preference is for our own.

This 46' Jefferson....does not have built in furniture..
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The fellow that owned it lived on it for several years, and seemed pleased with it.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:01 PM   #3
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Hey JAT We know a couple that have one and seem pleased, but you know how that is, I spent the money and I dont want to tell how bad I screwed up, if that is the case...and maybe they are really happy with it. I just assumed that there would be more conversations on boating forums about them. I saw one on Yacht World in St. Martins for sale, so at least one is cruising the Caribbean. We are checking one out next week, so maybe that will answer some of my questions. Thanks for responding.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:42 PM   #4
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I've been on many a jefferson and sold a few over the years and a very good friend of mine has a 48 jefferson and I've spent a good bit of time on the 46 jefferson. They build a good boat. Taiwanese built, they are not immune to any of the other Taiwanese issues, but they are nice boats and better than definitely some of the "trawlers" out there. I would not hesitate to buy one. The 46 jefferson is a very, very nice boat and if it were not for us wanting 3 staterooms due to the kids, the 46 jeff would be on our short list. Aft deck is HUGE for it's size vessel. Salon very nice, aft stateroom extremely spacious, etc. If you are looking mostly at the 46 jeff, yo insure it's largest market appeal I recommend getting the version with the door right next to the lower helm on the starboard side. Makes accessing the bow much easier and makes going through the locks on the river system much easier as well. I really like the 46 jeff a lot- very good layout. My friend's 48 jeff is really just the 46 with a cockpit on the back of it which is also super nice. I really like the 52 monticello except for engine room access which is minimal, as well as the 52 Marquessa which is jefferson's version of the 53 hatteras. Be sure and check the hull for blisters- many of the jeffs have blister issues but they are solid glass hulls so not usually an issue.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #5
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My buddy's 42 Jefferson Sundeck has been a very reliable boat for him. He's got twin Perkins 6.354 turbo diesels (200 hp?). He has the stbd door from the lower helm to the side deck, hardtop and full enclosure on the sundeck.

He also has minor osmotic blisters which he plans to address this spring. He's confident it's a non-issue since he's been told they're surface problems only....nothing structural.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:12 AM   #6
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Thanks guys. I knew there would be some info out there. Seems like every manufacturer have some quirks such as leaks, blisters,etc. I will go over one with a fine tooth comb next week as well as a couple of Defevers. We want one we could spend a lot of time on and not get in each others space too much. Thanks again for the input!
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #7
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Just for the fun of it...if you are open to comparing boats....if there are any 44' GulfStars around...you might want to take a look for comparison.

Its the boat we fell in love with.... here are the yachtworld pictures that we saw before we bought her... Five years later they are still accessible:

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Since we bought her...she's gotten new canvas, new paint...and the furniture in the pictures is a bit different now.

US built boat....solid hull, solid decks.....seven foot deep engine room...
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #8
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Hi Hidro. You will do better selling your houseboat where you are now. I do not think you will find the same market on the coast. Pricing on vessels has come down 30%. I do pre buys on vessels and remember prices of 2005 and 6. My socks are blown off by what the final selling price is. If you have cash, you are king. Boat loans are not easy to get. I see alot of home equity money used. Crawl the bilges. Take your time and remember fuel costs. 8.5 knots is great. 10 knots can cost a lot more to do. Good hunting.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:16 PM   #9
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The only Jefferson I have ever seen was a brand new fairly large one (50' or so) for sale in our marina. The Bellingham-based GB distributor picked up the line when they lost the GB distributorship to a Seattle-based company.

While the new Jefferson looked very impressive the hull was misshapen at the sheer line along the starboard side of the foredeck. Both Carey and I realized that the port side did not match the starboard side. While it was a subtle difference, once we became aware of this it stood out as a glaring defect in the manufacture of the boat.

This was a brand new, extremely expensive boat and the finish on the hull was impeccable. But based on the appearance of that one boat we would never consider buying a Jefferson even if we had the money. If they are that sloppy or inexact with their hulls, who knows what other sloppy work or poor craftsmanship is hidden inside. There are other makes out there that offer the same sort of boat but with a proven and defect-free hull layup.

The dealer sold that one boat, hopefully at a discount for the wonky hull, and never brought in another one, so I assume they dropped the line but I have no idea why.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:55 PM   #10
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Hi JAT Some close friends of ours has a Gulfstar. An awesome boat with lots of room, well built and lots of space. The main drawback for us is how high it is off the dock and water line. Seems hard to catch a bollard in the locks and to tie off on a dock without help. We need something with easier access.

Ron It seems that houseboats are still moving around here. Im not sure why, but some friends just put theirs up for sale and it was gone in a week. Might not be like that after the first of the year tho. We might be falling off that cliff very soon. We are still just shopping, but prices are very good right now for the buyer. Probably by the time we are ready to buy, they will be going back up the usual for me.

Marin That is the kind of info I was looking for. Seems that problems arent discussed much, we just tend to live with them. Since there isnt much on the net about the Jefferson, I surmised that they had problems of some kind, maybe all kinds. I am going to check one out next week none the less. Thanks for the heads up.
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Marin That is the kind of info I was looking for.
Keep in mind it was just one boat. If you are interested in Jeffersons check them out thoroughly for yourself.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:20 PM   #12
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First question should be: Is Jefferson still in business? They went into CH 7 liquidation earlier this year. That's a huge discount in my opinion if no support is available from the builder/importer; very close to a deal breaker.

If you do consider buying one, find out what kind of documentation, drawings, schematics, parts lists etc etc come with it, in addition to the usual of what the subsequent owners have done to it. And being an imported Asian boat, you want to find out info about the specific year and model you are considering from current and past owners. You can't generalize about a particular brand. Is there at least an active owners forum and club/group for the brand?
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A friend had a Jefferson in the 44 to 46 range....it was a nice boat. If I remember correctly though...and do correct me if I am wrong...it seemed to me that the furniture was "built in"....in the salon.... Our preference is for our own.

This 46' Jefferson....does not have built in furniture..
View Boat Photos - YachtWorld.com

The fellow that owned it lived on it for several years, and seemed pleased with it.
Hi, I'm a brand new member with lots of questions and few answers...and the intent to buy a Trawler...The photos that you posted the link to of the 46 Jefferson without the built in furniture...in Tampa Bay? You made a statement relative to a previous owner. Do you have any knowledge of this boat? I like what I see...at least on Yachtworld
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:04 PM   #15
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Hi, I'm a brand new member with lots of questions and few answers...and the intent to buy a Trawler...The photos that you posted the link to of the 46 Jefferson without the built in furniture...in Tampa Bay? You made a statement relative to a previous owner. Do you have any knowledge of this boat? I like what I see...at least on Yachtworld
The pictures of the boat that I posted...are of a boat that is listed for sale. I have no particular knowledge of that boat....and my friend sold his a couple of years ago... He was very happy with it, and he and his wife lived on it for a couple of years...til they eventually built a house and moved ashore. Never heard him complain about it.
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As far as Taiwanese trawlers go, Jefferson is near the top of my list. Their layouts are a little bit more creative and they do not seem to suffer as many window leak issues.

There are also NUMEROUS fresh water examples that is old consider first.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:35 AM   #18
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My boat neighbor has a 44 Jeff. it is going up for sale or already has by word of mouth. It is located in Toronto and has been used almost exclusivity on Lake Ontario I think the asking price is $80,000. Due to mainly health reasons it has had little use over the past few years. It does need some TLC.
If you are interrsted I can put you in touch with the owner
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:51 AM   #19
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We own a 1990 Jefferson 52 Marquessa. Wo love the boat. We are presently in a number of refits that you would need to do with any 23 year old boat. New hoses, rebedding items, etc. She is incredibly easy to handle, efficient at trawler speeds, can run 16 knots if you need and can afford to, great layout and much better buit than any other Tawainise boat we looked at. We went 700 miles after we bought her and not a bit of issues. Ours has twin 6V92 500 HP Detroits. At 8 knots she burns about 7 gallons an hour, at 10 knots about 11 to 12 GPH, at 14 knots about 44 GPH and WOT ouch, 66 GPH. We run around 8 to 10 knots and love the ride, comfort, and a doable economy. Occasionly we run her up to keep the turbos clean. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:36 AM   #20
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As far as the comments on the new Jeffersons I agree. The new ones that we looked at just did not have the quality that the older ones have. For instance the gate to the swim platform did not fit/close properly on a 2007 that we looked at one of the boat shows. However we find that the older ones like ours does seem to have considerably better quality. Of course you have all the refit issues with an older boat.
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