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11-17-2017, 03:42 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast, FL
Vessel Name: Coquina
Vessel Model: Lagoon 380
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what does Holy mean?
Is this a reference to working "down in the hole", or some superstitious influence of motors or something that requires worship maybe ??
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11-17-2017, 04:43 PM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,775
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"Working down in the hole", is a metaphor for a cramped workplace of any kind. The "holy place" is a euphemism for the engine room and the engine, probably indicating that it is too complex for mortal men to deal with.
David
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11-17-2017, 05:01 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Sequim
Vessel Name: Toad Hall
Vessel Model: Bluewater 40
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 80
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Holy place is the engine room.
It is called the holy place for two reasons:
1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
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11-17-2017, 05:21 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadhall
Holy place is the engine room.
It is called the holy place for two reasons:
1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
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So true, so true.
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11-17-2017, 05:44 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast, FL
Vessel Name: Coquina
Vessel Model: Lagoon 380
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,570
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I'm beginning to understand.
so, if the stuffing box lets go, then this area fills with.... Holy water??
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11-17-2017, 05:50 PM
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City: kemah
Join Date: May 2015
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I always thought it meant a bad word was coming next.
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11-18-2017, 12:12 AM
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City: Pender Harbour, BC
Vessel Name: Gwaii Haanas
Vessel Model: Custom Aluminum 52
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Not bad words, boat words.
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11-18-2017, 03:23 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toadhall
Holy place is the engine room.
It is called the holy place for two reasons:
1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
So true, so true.
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So true indeed. My most common lament when working down there, is "oh God, why does everything have to be so hard..?"
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11-18-2017, 06:26 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I always think of the engine space as the HELL Hole , as no visits are required , IF I did my PM properly.
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11-18-2017, 12:21 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
So true indeed. My most common lament when working down there, is "oh God, why does everything have to be so hard..?"
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Hard, not really, very easy to break something when trying to fix something else.
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11-18-2017, 04:41 PM
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Guru
City: La Conner Wa.
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
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It's more like " Holy sh__!! Head for the haul out!"
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11-18-2017, 08:38 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Love our Tollycraft's twin screw and gen set and batt bank... double piano hatched, wide open, under sole, roomy, stand-up "hole"!
I enjoy often getting into our boat's "hole" for equipment checkups or scheduled service/maintenance. Standing straight up just about whenever I like
Also, to either the forward or rear of the "hole" is large area of salon sole surface at stomach height. Really comfortable to work on things off engine and to have tool sets accessible.
Happy Engine-Hole Daze! - Art
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11-18-2017, 10:54 PM
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Senior Member
City: NW Washington State
Vessel Name: Kingfisher
Vessel Model: 37' converted gillnetter/crabber
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Holy? Shoot, I've been doing it wrong!
I used to crew on a 50' displacement trawler in the Galapagos Islands. We filled her tanks by siphoning from rusty 55 gallon barrels of diesel that came out from the mainland on barges.
When the seas got up, that's when the rusty diesel would get all stirred up...and the filters would clog. We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.
Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends.
There was absolutely NOTHING holy about that experience other than the fact that the poor slob who crawled out of that hot, stinking hole was so sick that he wanted to die!
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11-18-2017, 10:57 PM
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Guru
City: hawaii
Vessel Name: #31
Vessel Model: ex-Navy MUB 50 fish/cruise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver dave
I'm beginning to understand.
so, if the stuffing box lets go, then this area fills with.... Holy water??
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Hey, I’ve got the recipe for that stuff:
Just take some water and boil the hell out of it!
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11-19-2017, 06:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.
Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends."
Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort.
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11-19-2017, 08:48 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.
Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends."
Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort.
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Damn... Plan B seems the way ta go!!!
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11-19-2017, 05:48 PM
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Guru
City: hawaii
Vessel Name: #31
Vessel Model: ex-Navy MUB 50 fish/cruise
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Might be a comfort factor to relocate filters outside of the ER in the off chance that you did have to actually work on the filters at sea, but good installation and maintenance practices can almost nullify that.
I prefer to keep all the nasties in one area (the ER) that is isolated by bulkheads for spill and leak containment, and has absorber pads and fire protection on hand.
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But you can't make him ski...
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11-19-2017, 05:53 PM
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City: San Diego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.
Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends.".
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Ever go in to a steam drum or boiler?
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11-19-2017, 11:51 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,073
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500
Ever go in to a steam drum or boiler?
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Yup. Many times. Steam drum, mud drum, vestibules, penthouses, high pressure separators...
Dryer cans on a paper machine are as bad or worse. I've been crawling around inside gearboxes, screw conveyors, pressure vessels, tanks, equipment sumps, towers, and trays, sometimes under air, for 30 years now.
Come to think of it, working on boats really isn't that bad or cramped compared to many of the other pieces of equipment I've worked on.
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11-20-2017, 05:51 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort."
IF the fuel filter selector is down in the hell hole with the filter restriction gauge on top ,
there is a better chance of it being monitored , and a filter change done before air gets into the system.
When I decided to install a Flow Scan and a remote filter selector , it just became neater and easier to move the pair of 1000's to a better location .
The batterys (2-8D ) are under the salon sole , doesn't make them lighter but way easier to wrangle , when its replacement time., and the temperatures are better..
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