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Old 11-17-2017, 03:42 PM   #1
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what does Holy mean?

Is this a reference to working "down in the hole", or some superstitious influence of motors or something that requires worship maybe ??
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Old 11-17-2017, 04:43 PM   #2
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"Working down in the hole", is a metaphor for a cramped workplace of any kind. The "holy place" is a euphemism for the engine room and the engine, probably indicating that it is too complex for mortal men to deal with.

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Holy place is the engine room.

It is called the holy place for two reasons:

1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
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Old 11-17-2017, 05:21 PM   #4
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Holy place is the engine room.

It is called the holy place for two reasons:

1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
So true, so true.
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I'm beginning to understand.
so, if the stuffing box lets go, then this area fills with.... Holy water??
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Old 11-17-2017, 05:50 PM   #6
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I always thought it meant a bad word was coming next.
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Not bad words, boat words.
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Holy place is the engine room.

It is called the holy place for two reasons:

1. You tend to be on your knees.
2. You tend to.....uhm...... talk......yeah, talk to god a lot when you are down there on your knees.
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So true, so true.
So true indeed. My most common lament when working down there, is "oh God, why does everything have to be so hard..?"
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:26 AM   #9
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I always think of the engine space as the HELL Hole , as no visits are required , IF I did my PM properly.
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Old 11-18-2017, 12:21 PM   #10
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So true indeed. My most common lament when working down there, is "oh God, why does everything have to be so hard..?"
Hard, not really, very easy to break something when trying to fix something else.
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It's more like " Holy sh__!! Head for the haul out!"
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Love our Tollycraft's twin screw and gen set and batt bank... double piano hatched, wide open, under sole, roomy, stand-up "hole"!

I enjoy often getting into our boat's "hole" for equipment checkups or scheduled service/maintenance. Standing straight up just about whenever I like

Also, to either the forward or rear of the "hole" is large area of salon sole surface at stomach height. Really comfortable to work on things off engine and to have tool sets accessible.

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Holy? Shoot, I've been doing it wrong!

I used to crew on a 50' displacement trawler in the Galapagos Islands. We filled her tanks by siphoning from rusty 55 gallon barrels of diesel that came out from the mainland on barges.

When the seas got up, that's when the rusty diesel would get all stirred up...and the filters would clog. We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.

Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends.

There was absolutely NOTHING holy about that experience other than the fact that the poor slob who crawled out of that hot, stinking hole was so sick that he wanted to die!
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I'm beginning to understand.
so, if the stuffing box lets go, then this area fills with.... Holy water??
Hey, I’ve got the recipe for that stuff:
Just take some water and boil the hell out of it!
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"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.

Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends."

Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort.
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"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.

Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends."

Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort.
Damn... Plan B seems the way ta go!!!
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Might be a comfort factor to relocate filters outside of the ER in the off chance that you did have to actually work on the filters at sea, but good installation and maintenance practices can almost nullify that.
I prefer to keep all the nasties in one area (the ER) that is isolated by bulkheads for spill and leak containment, and has absorber pads and fire protection on hand.
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"We'd draw straws and the short straw had to go down into "el infierno" ("HELL") to change the filters.

Boys and girls, there is NOTHING like changing clogged diesel filters in a cramped engine space (hardly a "room") with a hot Caterpillar diesel engine filling 90% of the space and the round-bottom hull rolling sickeningly on her beam ends.".
Ever go in to a steam drum or boiler?
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Ever go in to a steam drum or boiler?


Yup. Many times. Steam drum, mud drum, vestibules, penthouses, high pressure separators...

Dryer cans on a paper machine are as bad or worse. I've been crawling around inside gearboxes, screw conveyors, pressure vessels, tanks, equipment sumps, towers, and trays, sometimes under air, for 30 years now.

Come to think of it, working on boats really isn't that bad or cramped compared to many of the other pieces of equipment I've worked on.
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"Plan B is simply to move the filter bank OUTSIDE the engine room where it can be worked on with more comfort."

IF the fuel filter selector is down in the hell hole with the filter restriction gauge on top ,
there is a better chance of it being monitored , and a filter change done before air gets into the system.

When I decided to install a Flow Scan and a remote filter selector , it just became neater and easier to move the pair of 1000's to a better location .

The batterys (2-8D ) are under the salon sole , doesn't make them lighter but way easier to wrangle , when its replacement time., and the temperatures are better..
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