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10-03-2015, 02:44 PM
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Volkswagen Diesel Engine
Soon it will be time to change over to Volkswagen Diesel Engines, they will be cheap.
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10-03-2015, 02:54 PM
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I dunno.....I don't think any have been marinized...
VW will fix the emission issues at some hit on performance.
The 2.0 liter is currently at 140 HP which may make a good engine for a small trawler...
I'm just glad my TDi Beetle convertible is a lease. It'll be their problem soon..
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10-03-2015, 03:04 PM
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10-03-2015, 03:33 PM
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Greetings,
VW went down the tubes when they switched from air to liquid cooled engines IMO.
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10-03-2015, 04:08 PM
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TDi's have somewhat of a cult following in the homegrown marine diesel circles.
RT for the record I agree with you.
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10-03-2015, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
VW went down the tubes when they switched from air to liquid cooled engines IMO.
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LOL...Dinosaurs roamed the earth once too!
( I know because I've had 6 aircooled Porsche's and a few VW's...and I'm a dinosaur)
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10-03-2015, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Volkswagen has been making marine engines for a while now, They have 4, 5 and 6 cylinder engines
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Didn't know...Obviously more popular in Europe than here...
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10-03-2015, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
VW went down the tubes when they switched from air to liquid cooled engines IMO.
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I disagree RT. Air cooled engines in a car is a stupid idea unless gas is $.49 a gallon. Way too much heat loss. I had a 1957 36hp Bettle and I liked the little car a lot but never got over 27mpg. And then there's the heater.
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10-03-2015, 04:40 PM
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A friend had an Aloha 34, built in the late 70s, with a Rabbit diesel. Definitely a VW product.
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10-03-2015, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
A friend had an Aloha 34, built in the late 70s, with a Rabbit diesel. Definitely a VW product.
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The original vw rabbit motors were marinized under the pathfinder name.. they were not a great motor..ok but the were loud and seemed to have more issues.
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10-03-2015, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywood8118
The original vw rabbit motors were marinized under the pathfinder name.. they were not a great motor..ok but the were loud and seemed to have more issues.
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Correction: These engines are VW Factory Marine engines and as of 1st of July 2012 marketed and sold as Mercury TDi Diesel Engines.
See the German VW website.
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10-03-2015, 05:25 PM
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Greetings,
Mr. mb. Yup, "...a stupid idea..." "Volkswagen’s Beetle is the best selling car in history... During almost 60 years, the incredible 21,529,464 Beetles were produced..." You have a boat and you're using fuel mileage as an argument?
I had a '59 and regularly got 40+ mpg. My '71 type 2 (1.6L) still gets 30+ mpg. Either something was wrong with your car or you didn't know how to drive it. Heat? When you're young and in love, who needs it?
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10-03-2015, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiziger
Correction: These engines are VW Factory Marine engines and as of 1st of July 2012 marketed and sold as Mercury TDi Diesel Engines.
See the German VW website.
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Whenever I hear the word Mercury I turn around and run like Forrest Gump and never look back.
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10-03-2015, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry M
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...wonder if you'd be stuck with all new ZF transmissions...
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10-03-2015, 06:59 PM
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I think this will cost VW mega$ to fix which may leave them vunerable to take overs , they have some good technologies which others may want. It will be interesting to watch what happens , this is what happens when you are caught cheating.
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10-03-2015, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Heat? When you're young and in love, who needs it?
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I, too, had a '59 Beetle (hand-painted) and recall a time in 1972 I would have killed for some heat. Driving it from my dorm in Tennessee to my parents home in Canada, I had tools spread out on the floor pan behind the driver's seat ready for the inevitable breakdown and my copy of "Keeping your VW Alive (for the Complete Idiot)" on the back seat.
As I left Chattanooga, the heater--which was pathetic when it was working--was totally on the fritz, it was raining like hell and there were holes in the front floor pan which let a lot of water stream in. It got bitterly cold as I got into Michigan and I wrapped a blanket around myself to stay warm. The breakdown happened after I crossed into Canada and I reached into the back to grab some tools only to find they were encased in solid ice. Fortunately, I was in London, Ontario by then, only 60 miles from my parents, and my dad came and picked me up. Lots of good times with that car, but that wasn't one of them.
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10-03-2015, 09:36 PM
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RT,
Any heat loss from an engine is efficiency lost. Air cooled cylinders are a fantastic heat sink. You should have bought a Renault .. then you really could have gotten 40mpg.
Not everything sold in large numbers is good and the air cooled VW is a good example. They sold because they were cute .. and no doubt about that. Just ask Herby.
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10-03-2015, 09:43 PM
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I believe Greenline Yachts use Volkswagen diesels from 75 to 220 HP in their 33 and 40 ft. Hybrids. Can't speak for their flagship 48 ft. Hybrid. I think the twin 110 and 220 HP versions might still be VW's, but I don't know about the twin 300 and 380 versions... could be another brand.
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10-03-2015, 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
I believe Greenline Yachts use Volkswagen diesels from 75 to 220 HP in their 33 and 40 ft. Hybrids. Can't speak for their flagship 48 ft. Hybrid. I think the twin 110 and 220 HP versions might still be VW's, but I don't know about the twin 300 and 380 versions... could be another brand.
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MAN is also a Volkswagen brand....
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10-03-2015, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
They sold because they were cute .. and no doubt about that. Just ask Herby.
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. . . and cheap! I bought mine for $200.
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