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Old 02-26-2014, 10:18 AM   #21
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Thanks guys. Great advice all
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:30 PM   #22
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We just muscled it out. Straps and 2x6's. and brawn.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:07 PM   #23
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Not looking good. Repair shop says the planetary gear is gone. May be cheaper to buy a new transmission. Not sure. I know mine is discontinued. Any one have experience in this? Should I just pay for the rebuild?
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:06 PM   #24
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This just came up on craigslist, don't know if it's what you need or not.

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Old 03-01-2014, 08:26 AM   #25
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I don't know what you have, but I have a Velvet drive for sale cheap with a 2.57:1 ratio.
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:47 AM   #26
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My current transmission is a 10-13-000-004. I know they are no longer made.

My gear ratio is 2.0 anyone know what the issues are with different geared transmissions?
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:17 PM   #27
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The BW's are in two parts: The front section is the clutch and reverse unit. In fwd, the ratio is 1:1. On the back is the reduction unit. The reduction units can be swapped from unit to unit, I think pretty much universally.

Sounds like your reversing planetary/clutch in the front unit burned up. You may be able to buy another unit and install your rear reduction unit on the new one.

Somewhere online is all the model number data explained.

Note some engines/gears are reverse rotation. You can use either, but the oil pump on the front unit must be lined up to match your engine rotation.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:43 PM   #28
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The BW's are in two parts: The front section is the clutch and reverse unit. In fwd, the ratio is 1:1. On the back is the reduction unit. The reduction units can be swapped from unit to unit, I think pretty much universally.

Sounds like your reversing planetary/clutch in the front unit burned up. You may be able to buy another unit and install your rear reduction unit on the new one.

Somewhere online is all the model number data explained.

Note some engines/gears are reverse rotation. You can use either, but the oil pump on the front unit must be lined up to match your engine rotation.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:45 PM   #29
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There are tons of the things out there. Heck I've got one in my garage, came off a 135 ford lehman. You might want to contact "Trans Atlantic Diesel", they'll probable give you a trade in on your old one. They buy and rebuild them as one of there lines. I do suggest that you do change the flex plate before you put anything back in. They are great transmissions and will go until the cows come home but when there time is up it's usually right now with no warning. Hope this helps. Larry
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:09 PM   #30
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LWW thanks. I did contact TAD first they have none in stock. I am unable to find an answer if a 10-17 series would work geared at 2.1.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:12 PM   #31
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LWW thanks. I did contact TAD first they have none in stock. I am unable to find an answer if a 10-17 series would work geared at 2.1.
So what is in there now?
Take a pic of the data plate and post, that will tell what you have.
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I don't think they made a 2:1. Lots of 1.91:1 and 2.10:1. Either way, whatever reduction you have can probably be bolted to another unit.
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:43 PM   #33
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I have velvet drives. Today while participating in a Mardi Gras boat parade, I lost stbd side transmission. It was hard to shift the binnacle and both helm stations wouldn't go in reverse. Transmission allowed forward gear only. Was able to return to port and upon inspection, fluid is darker than normal and foul smelling.

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sounds to me that the tranny ran hot and the clutch plates welded themselves together,if that happened you can not get it in neutral,belive it or not the clutchs are the same as the ones they used yrs ago in the fordomatic tranny for for fords but are made out of brass instead of steel, that's what the smell is burned out clutches,they weld together and are stuck in the forward motion
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Old 03-02-2014, 02:43 PM   #34
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Try calling Mike Vogt, Transmission Service Manager, Harbor Marine, Everett WA. I know he's along way away but he has rebuilt 1000s of marine transmissions and has parts in stock for lots of discontinued models. He's good about phone calls and questions. (425) 259-3285
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:55 PM   #35
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Try calling Mike Vogt, Transmission Service Manager, Harbor Marine, Everett WA. I know he's along way away but he has rebuilt 1000s of marine transmissions and has parts in stock for lots of discontinued models. He's good about phone calls and questions. (425) 259-3285
Thanks Larry. In touch with him.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:26 PM   #36
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Its just really not that heavy. Carry that sukker out. Now, an Allison or even a Paragon, thats kinda heavy. But a VD, no, I can carry that thing to town and get it fixed.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:30 PM   #37
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Well I removed my transmission and sent it to Harbor Marine in Washington State. Interesting planes trains and autos excursion. But I got it shipped. The good news is it can be repaired. But it's gonna cost. Now I am looking for a parts kit or a new oil / transmission cooler. I am looking for this one :


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Any one know where I can find one??

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Old 03-20-2014, 07:33 PM   #38
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Good Luck with parts, six years ago I searched all over the world for one! I had the same one on our Perkins and one of the two cores failed, finally found a place that still made the cores at $2100.00 each $4200.00 for the two that are in the factory cooler. Finally replaced it with one of these from Seakamp in Seattle, here is an online page of it NA001314CN Perkins Heat Exchanger at $325.00 Canadian, need a couple of 90 degree elbows to hook up the oil lines.

Just yesterday I installed another new one on the boat, as the original failure fill the Velvet Drive with seawater!!!!!!!!! Never again, now just replace it as regular maintenance ever 5-8 years.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:28 PM   #39
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I think there is one on ebay right now. This looks like a Bowman multicooler. Go to the EFBowman site and look up their "stockists" in the USA. There is a new one in Boston who was very helpful to me. Failing that, you could have your old one retubed or finally, bypass it and use a std. oil cooler.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkins-Dies...tr#ht_82wt_953
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:35 PM   #40
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Forget what I said about Bowman, yours is not a Bowman. That leaves the one on ebay, retube, or bypass.
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