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04-14-2011, 12:12 PM
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Fuel flow sensor
I'm playing with the idea of installing a fuel flow sensor with a dedicated gauge or to hook up to my Garmin (NMEA 2000). But all I am seeing are sensors that work for gasoline only (like the Lowrance EP-60R). Even the one made by Garmin works for diesel only. Is there a sensor made for diesel?
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04-14-2011, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
How about Floscan's with a NMEA 2000 converter?
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04-14-2011, 12:51 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
Still need a diesel compatibile sensor. That seems to be the problem.
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04-14-2011, 01:11 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
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Fotoman wrote:
Still need a diesel compatibile sensor. That seems to be the problem.
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*I'm missing something Flowscan is for Diesel and it will drive your 4000.* What's missing?
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04-14-2011, 01:45 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
Flowscan is the only way to go.
Navman (Northstar) did put one out but to my dissapointment found that they are not very accurate.
If you need one go with the Flowscan.
Benn
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04-14-2011, 03:10 PM
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Master and Commander
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
The Floscan 6510/BOS-2K flowmeter (top-right gauge)*comes with diesel flow sensors.
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04-14-2011, 03:30 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
I'm another happy customer.** Floscan Instrument Co. Inc.
Pull down the recreational menu at the top of the FloScan page and take your pick.
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04-14-2011, 04:41 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
I would add one but my Lehman sips so gingerly the flow wouldn't register.
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04-14-2011, 08:28 PM
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Fuel flow sensor
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jleonard wrote:
I would add one but my Lehman sips so gingerly the flow wouldn't register.
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******* Not true......Check out the various diesel models.
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-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Thursday 14th of April 2011 09:38:56 PM
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04-14-2011, 08:50 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
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jleonard wrote:
I would add one but my Lehman sips so gingerly the flow wouldn't register.
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*One can choose among Floscan*meters/gauges with ranges of 0-5, 0-10, 0-32, 0-50, and 0-100 gallons per hour.* Seahorse's gauge is 0-32 while Coot's is 0-10, so Seahorse's consumption rate*seems to*expected to be a*lot higher than the Coot.* I'm sure you could find a gauge appropriate for your Lehman.*
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04-14-2011, 09:15 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
*One can choose among Floscan*meters/gauges with ranges of 0-5, 0-10, 0-32, 0-50, and 0-100 gallons per hour.* Seahorse's gauge is 0-32 while Coot's is 0-10, so Seahorse's consumption rate*seems to*expected to be a*lot higher than the Coot.
* * * * The 0-10 gph guage would have been fine for my boat at normal operating conditions. (2000 rpm) Since the Floscan will tell you much more than just how many gallons you are burning per hour and the total fuel consumed, what happens when you have a severe fuel leak & the fuel flow inceases to 15+ gph? I wanted a scale that not only showed me my normal operating conditions but also abnormal conditions. (Fuel leaks, prop fouling, injector problems, etc.) That's why I have a 0-32 scale.
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04-15-2011, 12:09 AM
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Fuel flow sensor
Good point, Seahorse.* I'm expecting a normal consumption rate of a gallon or two*an hour or less, and I don't believe the John Deere 4045 is capable of consuming faster than five or so gallons.* Thus, a 10-gallon gauge should be adequate to disclose abnormal consumption/loss for the Coot.*
http://www.deere.com/en_US/rg/ESC/Sp...0_A_S0_R0.html
What're the normal and*maximum consumption rates*for Seahorse?
-- Edited by markpierce on Friday 15th of April 2011 01:21:04 AM
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04-15-2011, 03:58 AM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
Gas units consist of ONE unit that measures the flow,
Most diesel setups require 2 sensors as the return fuel must be deducted from the supplied fuel.
Weather a Ford that may leak fuel , but not return it can be operated on a gas style setup is a good question.
With patience the Flow Scan can be accurate to about 1%.
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04-15-2011, 05:07 AM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
"*I'm sure you could find a gauge appropriate for your Lehman"
I'm sure I could, but my point was...why would I bother? The consumption is so low and predictable*I would not even consider adding one.
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04-15-2011, 06:03 AM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
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SeaHorse II wrote:
I'm another happy customer.** Floscan Instrument Co. Inc.
Pull down the recreational menu at the top of the FloScan page and take your pick.
I used their selector and this is what I got:
"There are no results found!"*
Volvo TAMD 41P*
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04-15-2011, 06:13 AM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
Thanks guys. The Floscan seems to be a good solution but way out of the budget I was willing to spend on this. I thought I could just get a $75 sensor and hook it up to my GPS and be done with it. And it's not like I really need this information, it would be nice but not essential.
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04-15-2011, 07:07 AM
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Fuel flow sensor
Ron, I installed a Floscan on my (previous boat)*2002 Camano with a TAMD 41, I don't remember the rest of the model digits it was about 200hp turbo and after cooled. If you are interested in installing one they might have the correct unit if you call or e'mail them. I found it to be relatively easy to install and very accurate after a couple of simple calibrations. I do have a couple of pictures of the installation if you are interested PM me.
Steve W
-- Edited by Steve on Friday 15th of April 2011 08:08:22 AM
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04-15-2011, 07:40 AM
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Fuel flow sensor
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markpierce wrote:What're the normal and*maximum consumption rates*for Seahorse?
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*Mark:
The Cummins 330B is rated at 315hp @2800rpm. The table below shows the fuel flow at that rpm. (2800) I don't, however, run at anywhere near that. (Normally, 1800-2000rpm.)
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-- Edited by SeaHorse II on Friday 15th of April 2011 08:51:05 AM
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04-15-2011, 09:49 AM
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Fuel flow sensor
Quote:
jleonard wrote:
"*I'm sure you could find a gauge appropriate for your Lehman"
I'm sure I could, but my point was...why would I bother? The consumption is so low and predictable*I would not even consider adding one.
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*Understood.* Even my builder said one wasn't necessary and mildly discouraged me*from getting*one.* But for me, I like the immediate feedback.* It makes me a better driver.
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-- Edited by markpierce on Friday 15th of April 2011 11:09:52 AM
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04-15-2011, 12:18 PM
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RE: Fuel flow sensor
"It makes me a better driver."
Gotcha. Plus there's coolness factor in having gizmos.
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