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Old 01-07-2017, 05:21 AM   #1
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Which Trawlers do not have steel fuel tanks ?

Just looked at a nice 1985 41' President. One side fuel tank had been replaced with two aluminum tanks, owner said, but could not see them,,, no idea how and watching U-tube it looks like a hole in the side is the only way to replace it. Did not see any signs of a hole in the side,,,, I was concerned that the remaining tank could go bad so I passed on the deal.
Are there any Trawlers that do not have steel tanks,, or any Trawlers that the fuel tanks can be accessed any easier ?
Are all the Asian trawlers fitted with steel tanks and hard to access or just a group of certain years?
How about any other brands ?
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This has been one of my biggest concerns too. So far I have learned that Hatteras, Viking, Gulfstar, Great Harbor, and possibly Hi Star are MY's or Trawlers that have fiberglass tanks.
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Most sadly do! Long sad stories.
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Most sadly do! Long sad stories.
It doesn't have to be a long sad story.

I have iron tanks. If I waited for a trawler to come along without them, I'd be in a retirement community before that happened. On survey, the tanks were not visable. I got a quote for tank replacement (just in case). I wanted to know what kind of money I could potentially be dealing with. It was around 10 grand. This didn't scare me and I immediately started a reserve account for their eventual replacement. As I type this, I still have no issue with my tanks. Who knows? They could out live me.

Personally I did not let iron tanks scare me from a purchase, BUT I am certainly prepared to deal with them and the purchase price reflected it.

Knock on wood, she has been really good.
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In the 80's etc, The tanks as most mechanical stuff went in before the upper decks. Nobody ever imagined the boats might last 40 or 50+years.
Our Senator has some nicely mounted and accessible tanks (150 each).One Perkins.
Many others of this vintage have no access and must be cut up under deck to remove, then replaced smaller segmented tanks. All tasks I recommend for deeper pockets or much younger than me
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Thanks,
Found a '88 45' Jefferson close (St. Pete) not sure about the tanks, also has 3208 Cats, would rather have straight 6 Cummins or Cats.
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They are not IRON!
Just cheap ass steel.
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They are not IRON!
Just cheap ass steel.
Iron, steel, cardboard. Doesn't matter what they are made of when and if they start leaking.
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Another thought.
As Mister Robinson told young Dustin Hoffman "the future is in plastics"
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And just like most of us really don't own true "trawlers".....

The term "black iron" when referring to the steel used to make boat tanks has been around at least as long as most of us been boating.

Whether correct or incorrect, whether accurate or not....do we really want just another semantics topic that the word smith's can fill the forum with?

As to being worried about buying with older metal tanks..... I cut mine out and replaced with smaller poly tanks....cost me around $500 total.

Well if you add in a new, better reciprocating saw.....maybe $600.

Not a great job to do, but not my worst. Twins would have changes the equation but still like Donna mentioned, subtract the cost back into the offering price if you think it may have to be done in your ownership.
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My 2003 Ocean Alexander has stainless tanks. I can see the entire 300 gallon tank under the rear berth and it looks great from the outside.

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Old 01-07-2017, 07:54 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=antioch01;510973]...Are there any Trawlers that do not have steel tanks,, or any Trawlers that the fuel tanks can be accessed any easier ?...QUOTE]

A few Krogen 42's in the early 80's were built with fiberglass tanks. Most of the other 42's had steel tanks when built and the tank(s) can not be removed from the engine room in one piece. However there are quiet a few 42's that have been retrofitted with aluminum tanks.
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Selenes have had aluminum tanks since first introduced in 1999.
I am curious how well the built-in fiberglass tanks hold up?
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Hatteras LRC's and Nordhavns have fiberglass tanks, which will give you unlimited life. This was one of my criteria's when searching for a boat. My previous 48LRC Hatteras was nearly 40 years and the tanks looked like new when did a interior inspection.
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been my previous boats always stainless steel(AISI 316) tanks of water, fuel and black water.


I find it amazing that the current Nordic Tug has been used in the aluminum water and fuel, black water laminated hull. I think the Nordic Tug is an expensive boat, still used in low-cost solution for these, I do not understand this line. previous boat was a motor boat from Polish Galeon Yatch affordable brand.
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I will take a properly engineered, built in fiberglass tank every time...


It is not necessarily a low cost solution.
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I have just started cutting out the stbd tank (200 gls). I prefer to do it now before they do leak and my options in low cost replacement disappears. Its upwards of 18K if the yard does it. Kemah has lots of oil money and pirates...

Im a bit stumped in how everyone uses a sawall as I only have about a 1/2" clearance between the hull sides and bottom and the tanks themselves. Im hoping a small handheld circular saw with a steel blade can get it done.
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Fiberglass sounds good, but being a machinist, I am partial to Stainless, 304 is OK, but especially 316.
There are so many parts such as barbecue grills made of 400 series magnetic stainless it makes me sick. It rusts just as bad as steel, but they can advertise stainless.
I am currently looking for a 44 Gulfstar motor yacht, with twin Perkins.
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