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Old 12-18-2011, 05:10 AM   #1
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Started a total refit for everything below the waterline this winter in preparation for heading south next winter.

Thought it a shame to do everything and not rebed the bronze bolt on stern tube in the bilge.* Asked here and other forums how it was attached.* Everything LOOKED good there...boy was I wrong.

Answered my question yesterday...went ahead and tried to remove the stuffing box assembly.* The stern tube WAS just lag bolted to the hull...glad I dug into the setup.* The clamps holding the hose to the tube looked good on top but were rusted just about through on the bottom, the adjusting*bolts on the packing adjuster were wasted from galvanic corrosion and 2 of the stainless lag bolts were wasted away for more than half of the threads and only tight from the caulking on the heads.

I'm guessing the previous owner of 25+ years never did anything except possible a new piece of rubber hose through the years.

Next is pull the prop and cut off the solid coupler to get the assembly out and renewed/replaced and use a split coupler to make future repairs easier.



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Old 12-18-2011, 06:14 AM   #2
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And of course NONE of this would be noticed by even the worlds greatest surveyor.
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Old 12-18-2011, 06:45 AM   #3
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he also missed hydrolysis/blisters*so bad....just finished grinding off the whole bottom (paint, gel coat, mat layer and in some places into a layer or two of the roving!)..plus lots more throughout the boat...

his only defense was that I said I was buying the boat anyway so don't write up any insurance showstoppers..but a verbal might have been nice!

my faith in surveyors remains at an all time low. I know they are gonna miss some things...but what I resent is that insurance companies make you pay for them on a regular basis.


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Old 12-30-2011, 02:05 PM   #4
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What I resent, in addition to required BS surveys,*is Ins Cos make you pay TOO MUCH for everything - - > Always!

Point in fact:

This year for seemingly no reason my SAFECO annual*boat ins coat*nearly doubled, from $639.00 to $1,120.00 Geeeezzz!* I had no claim ever*and was*not late on any payment.* When I tried to call SAFECO HQ all*I could get was the recorded run around.* Placed my broker, who handles all my ins, on the cause and she came back saying that the ins co had placed a new rating schedule*on the area where I docked my boat.* There was no reduction she could get.

So...*I began calling all over to other ins brokers and companies... for some reason they all were pretty much in line with my suddenly increased ins charge; some a bit lower some a bit higher.* No one could/would tell me why my boat docking area had such a huge rating*cost increase.

I got pissed!* I*began seeking top level adjusters at SAFECO HQ and would not let up!* Finally an executive from the rating dept called me.* She said the reason my area insurance had increased is due to storms back east.* WTF - My boat has no chance of the same conditions and my ins doubles!* I said to her I would need to change ins providers then because it is incorrect that with no claims and on time payments that my boat ins should suddenly double.* She said Good Luck!* That blew my small attempt at leverage - LOL.* She probably already knew that all ins cos were acting in similar fashion for raising rates.*

As all ins cos were affected at different level fron East coast stotms, I call that national*Big Biz collusion!

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Old 12-30-2011, 08:29 PM   #5
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*As all ins cos were affected at different level fron East coast stotms, I call that national*Big Biz collusion!

*
Not trying to pimp for her, but*one of the owners of ALT insurance group is my dock partner and has the boat next to me.**She specializes in Marine Insurance.* Mary also owns a 40' Tolly.* She has my home and rental property ins. and has pretty good*rates.* I currently don't have my boat ins. with her, but she's been trying to get me to switch over to Premier Marine Insurance, which is a West Coast only marine insurance company.* If you haven't already done so, give her a call or email.** Maybe she can do something for you.* Web page below.

Larry B**

http://www.altinsurancegroup.com/Mary_LaFleur.html
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:42 PM   #6
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Another good company is the insurance underwriter Anchor Marine. Based in Seattle and Alaska they insure boats all over the country. Might be worth a phone call, at least. http://www.anchormarineinsurance.com/
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:22 PM   #7
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*As all ins cos were affected at different level fron East coast stotms, I call that national*Big Biz collusion!

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Not trying to pimp for her, but*one of the owners of ALT insurance group is my dock partner and has the boat next to me.**She specializes in Marine Insurance.* Mary also owns a 40' Tolly.* She has my home and rental property ins. and has pretty good*rates.* I currently don't have my boat ins. with her, but she's been trying to get me to switch over to Premier Marine Insurance, which is a West Coast only marine insurance company.* If you haven't already done so, give her a call or email.** Maybe she can do something for you.* Web page below.

Larry B**

http://www.altinsurancegroup.com/Mary_LaFleur.html


Hi Larry


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Thank you for your input on ALT Insurance and Premier Marine Insurance, Mary and Dave are advertised throughout Tollycraft Boating Club literature.


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Old 12-30-2011, 09:49 PM   #8
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Another good company is the insurance underwriter Anchor Marine. Based in Seattle and Alaska they insure boats all over the country. Might be worth a phone call, at least. http://www.anchormarineinsurance.com/
*Thanks, Marin

For holiday season I rested my Ins search and stayed with SAFECO... for now.* Plan to remew my search vigor in New Year.* Will contact Anchor Marine. - Art

PS: Happy 2012*New Year!
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:31 AM   #9
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As all ins cos were affected at different level fron East coast stotms, I call that national Big Biz collusion!

Insurance co. spread their costs , we all pay for unlicensed or drunk drivers.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:25 AM   #10
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That was the point of this thread...I hope all you 80's vintage boats are looking under the surface of thongs otherwise you are GONNA NEED good insurance...
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As all ins cos were affected at different level fron East coast stotms, I call that national Big Biz collusion!

Insurance co. spread their costs , we all pay for unlicensed or drunk drivers.
Fred*

Drunk drivers are an affliction whose ins-risk spreads pretty evenly across the U.S. and*creates fairly equally shared losses for all ins cos.**Specific area mass insurance calamities such as described below are quite different.**

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Individual insurance companies may become affected/afflicted differently by individual mass-insurance cases/causes (storms, wild fires, earthquakes etc...).* Insurance companies that are substantially affected by a particular mass-insurance event do need to cover their own losses by spreading the cost to others they insure, especially the ones to which they pay claims due to such a calamity event.* But, when a group of ins cos that heavily insure the East coast take a mass-insurance loss and ALL ins cos (even those not heavily insuring the area of damage) suddenly raise (nearly double) their rates, even on West coast boats docked deep inside and traveling around some 1,100 miles of storm-protected areas of freshwater inland boating (in my case, SF Bay Area Delta Stockton CA) with little to no chance of unexpected mass-insurance damage and owning a boat never having had a claim filed - - > I call that internal industry collusion and improper price fixing.* **
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"I call that internal industry collusion and improper price fixing. "

No problem , vote with your feet, make their huge profits yours, self insure for the hull part , just keep the liability.

The savings you have wont show up as "income" and are worth about 40% more as they are tax free.
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*looking under the surface of thongs
*It would depend who is wearing it.


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*It would depend who is wearing it.



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