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Old 01-15-2013, 10:09 PM   #601
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Correct about Grand Banks, at least mostly. Hard to know what you mean by "recently", .
GB itself did not start using the term "trawler" or "trawler yacht" in its literature until the 1990s I believe. Not that others including brokers, magazines, etc. weren't calling them "trawlers" long before this.

The aft cabin Grand Banks has never been called a "motoryacht." It has always been called the "Classic" even in the woody days. The name "Motoryacht" is the model name for the full-width aft cabin model and it has been called that for decades. Other manufacturers call this style "sundeck."

There are only four model names for the Ken Smith-hulled Grand Banks boats: Classic (tri-cabin), Sedan, Europa, and Motoryacht. There have been occasional sub-names for specific versions of some of these models, particularly in the Sedan configuration.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:17 PM   #602
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come on guys, just let this go and move on to something new, you know you will feel better for it.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:19 PM   #603
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GB itself did not start using the term "trawler" or "trawler yacht" in its literature until the 1990s I believe. Not that others including brokers, magazines, etc. weren't calling them "trawlers" long before this.

The aft cabin Grand Banks has never been called a "motoryacht." It has always been called the "Classic" even in the woody days. The name "Motoryacht" is the model name for the full-width aft cabin model and it has been called that for decades. Other manufacturers call this style "sundeck."

There are only four model names for the Ken Smith-hulled Grand Banks boats: Classic (tri-cabin), Sedan, Europa, and Motoryacht. There have been occasional sub-names for specific versions of some of these models, particularly in the Sedan configuration.
We are using two versions of the same term to describe a common boat.

I am using the term "aft cabin" in the same way it is commonly used in the brokerage industry; describing what you call a "sundeck" or "full width aft cabin" model. A boat with a cabin abaft the main cabin is often called a "tri-cabin", but we agree that Grand Banks called their boats with a "full width aft cabin" a Motor Yacht
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Interesting. Don't know what brokerages you have experience with. But the GB brokers and GB people I have experience with all call the Classic an "aft cabin" boat. Or a "tri-cabin." They call the GB Motoryacht a "full width aft cabin" boat. Never heard the term "aft cabin" applied to the Motoryacht before.

Semantics, I guess, in the case of your example, or perhaps brokers not that familiar with GB's history and nomenclature.
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What the hell do the SEMITES have to do with this?
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Words, RTF. You're thinking of the bugs that eat semi-tractors.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:48 PM   #607
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What the hell do the SEMITES have to do with this?
We talken bout 666 again?!?! LOL

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Interesting. Don't know what brokerages you have experience with. But the GB brokers and GB people I have experience with all call the Classic an "aft cabin" boat. Or a "tri-cabin." They call the GB Motoryacht a "full width aft cabin" boat. Never heard the term "aft cabin" applied to the Motoryacht before.

Semantics, I guess, in the case of your example, or perhaps brokers not that familiar with GB's history and nomenclature.
Semantics.

Here are another couple of examples of boats commonly called "aft cabins". Neither is a trawler, but certain generic terms (such as "sedan") are often applied specifically to trawlers- even if not used in a particular factory's official sales literature. What these two vessels share in common with the Motor Yacht series from GB is a master stateroom farthest aft, and a need to step up to the "sundeck" to cross from side to side at the stern.
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Are we there yet?

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Rumor was 500 is the absolute max. Like the oft predicted end of the world, nothing happened, now the max looks like infinity. Someone please turn off the life support system.
Oh no, I just fed the beast again. Roll on 666.
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Keep in mind that the more the posts, the more disk space needed on the server, and the more it costs to support this forum.

A charge by the post might help keep this thread from reaching infinity!
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Great Laker, it must be fun to have the fastest true Trawler (oops that is another thread) on the forum, a single at that!
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Keep in mind that the more the posts, the more disk space needed on the server, and the more it costs to support this forum.

A charge by the post might help keep this thread from reaching infinity!
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I agree but until your post I really didn't know but was quite sure it must be costly in some way.
I think quoting a big post (especially w pics) whereas your'e only referring to a few sentences should be AVOIDED. With the copy and paste feature one can surgically choose only what is needed to copy and paste and seeing the same big picture over and over is wasteful too. I don't know much about computers but I do know how to copy and paste so PM me as needed.

But I disagree w you that any thread should be a certain length. Posting meaningless posts just to make the number go up is silly and wasteful though. But one must recall that having fun is a serious goal too. I think we do need to stop being wasteful though.
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I think quoting a big post (especially w pics) whereas your'e only referring to a few sentences should be AVOIDED.


Man, I sure agree with that one! Nothing looks more ridiculous than seeing a huge post with a thousand lines of text or a series of photos that have little if anything to do with the subject other than a "me too me too' value quoted in its entirety only to be followed by a single line ...
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Man, I sure agree with that one! Nothing looks more ridiculous than seeing a huge post with a thousand lines of text or a series of photos that have little if anything to do with the subject other than a "me too me too' value quoted in its entirety only to be followed by a single line ...
Me too...
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aw come on you guys spot kidding around this is a serious issue that needs anserwed before i buy a new boat. Geez.....If you asked the question I would not take it frivously.............

all kidding aside there as been lots of good info already contributed which i have learned much from but i NEED MORE...........actually naught....I have decided on the boat which is a single, but haveing owning many many boats in my life each new purchase still scares the you know what outa me.

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Lots of 3 engine boats around.
I know I'm late to the party, but there is a boat in our marine that has 2 gas I/Os and one diesel inboard. Yes it is home made. It was an old Chris Craft hull, that had an interior fire. He gutted it and built his own cabin. Why did he install the diesel? As he tells it, a friend dropped it off at his house one night while he was building it, and figured, "why not?".

The water is really clear during this time of year. I'll have to go take a picture this week.
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Mr. 45. Ahhh..... NOW you're getting it. Calm down, relax and get a good survey. The single vs twin question WILL go on ad nauseum and I intend to take part in all subsequent pointless discussions. There is NO RIGHT ANSWER!!!!!!! You don't need more.
The MAIN thing is, disregarding the # of engines, extra costs, internet opinions, ER space, galley up, galley down, queens size berths, anchors, electronics, spitballs or farts.....Do YOU like the boat and do YOU think the boat will do what you want it to do. PERIOD!!!!! Discussion closed...Good grief!
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You're using the same amount of bandwidth to read a post as you do creating one. It's great for ad revenue though.
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Mr. 45. Ahhh..... NOW you're getting it. Calm down, relax and get a good survey. The single vs twin question WILL go on ad nauseum and I intend to take part in all subsequent pointless discussions. There is NO RIGHT ANSWER!!!!!!! You don't need more.
The MAIN thing is, disregarding the # of engines, extra costs, internet opinions, ER space, galley up, galley down, queens size berths, anchors, electronics, spitballs or farts.....Do YOU like the boat and do YOU think the boat will do what you want it to do. PERIOD!!!!! Discussion closed...Good grief!
....thanks, and your right, but the fact is i have had lots of boats becuse i have yet to find one that will do everything i want a boat to do.
I'm looking forward to just putting around watching the sun come up and then set over and over as i travel from point A to point B in a vessel that takes three days to do what i am used to doing in one or less.

A good survey, how can i be sure the guy i find can do a good survey? That is a bit scary.
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