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Old 12-23-2010, 04:29 AM   #1
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rudder for MT 36

Hi All, am new to this as just bought a 36 MT needing lots of work so moved it next to my commercial building for the winter work and within 2 weeks someone came in and stole the rudder.* I did manage to pull the Prop so saved that.*
Question:* Where can I get info on where to either buy or fabricare at Rudder.
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:37 AM   #2
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Bad break! Just curious what was the rudder made of?
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Old 12-23-2010, 05:44 AM   #3
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RE: rudder for MT 36

If you need a pic of how it's supposed to look here's mine.
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:29 AM   #4
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Goodness- what on earth would someone want with a rudder?! How weird!!! I think I'd be moving my boat indoors if it's possible!
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Old 12-23-2010, 08:43 AM   #5
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Woodsong wrote:Goodness- what on earth would someone want with a rudder?! How weird!!!
*If you*had asked Mahatma Ghandi, he would have replied*that it might be someone who does "not to have control over the senses ..."


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Old 12-23-2010, 09:04 AM   #6
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We get broken into to take the copper, SS and misc. metals to be sold as scrap. **They will take what ever they think is some value and not secured.* Welding cables seem to be their most favorite.* Most of them are homes and/or addicts.* We have Lazar's, listening and cameras around our plant and office.***The police get very excited with dogs , guns, and tsars.* First they let in the dogs which usually find them right away.* By the Lazar's and cameras we can track where they are.
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Goodness- what on earth would someone want with a rudder?! How weird!!!
Maybe someone had stolen the thief's rudder.* Sort of a marine version of musical chairs?

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Old 12-23-2010, 09:11 AM   #8
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Goodness- what on earth would someone want with a rudder?! How weird!!! I think I'd be moving my boat indoors if it's possible!
Could be allot of bronze there.* Selling a rudder at a scrap yard will buy some dope.* They steal plaques off grave markers for the same purpose.* We had small markers placed in the South end of the Walnut St pedestrian bridge.* There were a few hundred.* They were thin and about 3" x 5".* They had the names*of people and families that contributed to the preservation efforts.* All were taken.*Now they are slowly replacing them with cast aluminum that is screwed down with screws that want back out.* When it is figured out that they can be pried out they may start disappearing again.

Scrap yards should know when they are buying grave markers and commemorative plaques.========but I digress.*

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maybe someone is building a boat part by part?
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*I think that is what lead to the Russian revolution.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:35 AM   #11
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You guys are mak'in me feel really good about living in Alaska. Heard of someone that had food taken out of their fridge in a smaller village than ours. We're almost crime free but we do have some problems***** ...mostly alcohol and drug related. Lots of people leave their cars/trucks running for a half an hour at a time while in a store ect.


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Old 12-23-2010, 12:30 PM   #12
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RE: rudder for MT 36

Here is one brand of OTS rudders, Duramax also builds them , both will modify to suit for a few extra bucks.

Sit down and have a couple of cool ones before looking at the list price.

Remember most hardware has a 50%+10% discount , so find some OEM to order it factory direct and save big.


Buck Algonquin - Steering Parts - High Speed Rudders - Flanged Type

Buck Algonquin Flanged High Speed Rudders are available in Cast Bronze or Stainless Steel.

Buck Algonquin Flanged High Speed Rudders have a stainless steel shaft (unless noted otherwise).

Special Lengths and keyways can be installed upon special request.

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Due to the instability of the metals market, the price of Buck Algonquin rudder is time sensitive, and all rudders are priced on request.
Model Number Shaft Material Shaft Size Blade Dim. Leading Edge Hub above Flange Weight (lbs.)
10R3HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1 x 18" 9-1/4 x 11-1/2" 2" 1" 16
10R4HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1 x 15" 6 x 12" 2" 7" 11
10R5HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1-3/8 x 21-1/4" 9-1/2 x 15" 3-1/4" 2-1/2" 28
10R6HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1-1/4 x 20" 9-1/2 x 15" 3-1/4" 1-1/2" 28
10R7HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1-1/2 x 12" 10 x 16" 3" N/A 32
10R8HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1-1/4 x 16" 9-1/2 x 15" 3-1/4" 1-1/2" 33
10R9HSFSS1 Stainless Steel 1-1/2 x 20" 15-1/4 x 24-3/4" 5-7/8" 4-13/16" 80
10R10HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/4 x 12" 11-1/8 x 11-1/2" 3-1/8" N/A 28
10R11HSFSS Stainless Steel 1 x 12" 11-1/8 x 11-1/2" 3-1/8" N/A 28
10R30HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/4 x 16" 10 x 14 1/2" 2" N/A 32
10R31HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/2 x 20" 11 x 16" 3-1/2" 4-1/2" 40
10R32HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/2 x 13 1/4" 14-5/8 x 18-3/4" 3" 4-1/2" 30
10R33HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/4 x 13 3/4" 10-5/8 x 16-3/4" 2-5/8" 2-1/4" 25
10R34HSFSS Stainless Steel 1-1/2 x 18 1/2" 13 x 20-3/4" 4-7/16" 4-1/2" 36
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:56 PM   #13
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RE: rudder for MT 36

Thanks for all the comments. It was Bronze and of course it would bring cash at the scrap yard. I had never thought that someone would steal it but right after that I removed the prop and files a stolen good report that the Police dispatched to ever scrap yard within 25 miles but have heard nothing.
My business takes me to China where I have an office (Shanghai) and I hear that the Taiwan yard that built it is now located in Ningbo(southeast of Shanghai) so could get down there. I am looking for any information that would be helpful including getting any dimensions, drawings etc. The boat has a FL120 in it with a 3-bladed prop if that affects the rudder size.
Anyway thanks for any info you care to offer.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:07 AM   #14
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Thanks for the picture. It looks exactly like mine "did".* Is it possible to get some dimensions off of it?* I am hoping that I can contact the "factory" and get a replacement otherwise I would need to look at having one made based on a drawing or some dimensions etc.

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