Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-15-2014, 01:43 PM   #1
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
portable Generator Question

Honda EU2000 is always considered top of the line by me and so that is what I was thinking of getting. Then, I looked at NorthernTool.com and they have their own brand - Powerhorse. The specs are identical.
Does anyone here have any experience with the Powerhorse generator?
Thanks in advance
Tony B
__________________
Advertisement

__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:20 PM   #2
Guru
 
djmarchand's Avatar
 
City: East Greenwich, RI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bella
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 34
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,882
Powerhouse is Chinese made. I have purchased and used a couple of inverters, a voltage converter, a construction type generator: all made in China. All failed. Northern Tool will have a US organization to deal with warranty issues. I'll bet you get to know them well if you buy one.

David
__________________

djmarchand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:26 PM   #3
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,185
Same with the Harbor Freight Tools versions. IMO, cheap Chinese crap. You get what you pay for.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:26 PM   #4
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
David, you are probably right. The admiral just reminded me of the times I bought stuff from Harbor Freight and Northern Tool in my quest to save money.
__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:28 PM   #5
Guru
 
ben2go's Avatar
 
City: Upstate,SC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: The Caroliner
Vessel Model: Plans to build 30' Spira Sitka
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,080
I have never used one, but have searched for info.This is what I found,buyer beware,it's all hearsay.The Power House is supposedly a Chinese knock off of the Honda units and Harbor Freight sells,or sold, the same thing, just re-branded to their brand.I have checked out the PH next to the Honda.The PH was a little lighter.Just enough to be able to feel it.I don't know if the weight difference means the PH is lacking quality, because of inferior metals, or if they had to change the design a little to keep from getting sued by Honda.That is all I can really say for them.I don't know about noise levels,reliability,or longevity.I plan to try one.

Chinese engines is something I can give some info on.When I buy them,first thing I do is drain the crankcase of oil and refill with kerosene.Shake the engine around for a few minutes,being sure to get it up all the sides.I let the engine sit for about a half hour at an angle with the drain port down.Then I drain off the kerosene into a pan.I do this as many times as needed, until I can't see debris coming out.Then I refill with good conventional oil,usually 30w Castrol GTX.Then I run the engine at half speed for a half hour,drain the oil,and check for debris.I do this until I can't find debris.The silver stripes in oil will be normal as the engine breaks in and should get better over time.The debris I find is casting sand,cast flashing,and machining shavings.I have went as far as disassembling some Grey Hound (Harbor Freight) engines and cleaning them out.I would consider buying the extended warranty with either brand.I have had good luck with no question asked exchanges when those motors crapped out.I see no reason why it would be any different for the generators.
__________________
BEN'S BOAT BLOG

ben2go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:30 PM   #6
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
Thanks Al

I see we posted at the same time and we both used Harbor Freight as a reference also.

I will order the Honda EU2000i from Northern Tool unless you know of a better price. Northern Tool is selling the Honda for $999 with free shipping.
__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:33 PM   #7
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
Thanks Ben, I think you just convinced me to get the Honda.

Tony B
__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:34 PM   #8
Guru
 
SCOTTEDAVIS's Avatar
 
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Country: US
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 913
Even if free I don't want it,

Junk is junk, and China crap is junk.
SCOTTEDAVIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 02:50 PM   #9
Guru
 
ben2go's Avatar
 
City: Upstate,SC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: The Caroliner
Vessel Model: Plans to build 30' Spira Sitka
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony B View Post
Thanks Ben, I think you just convinced me to get the Honda.

Tony B
You're welcome.
__________________
BEN'S BOAT BLOG

ben2go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 03:24 PM   #10
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony B View Post
I see we posted at the same time and we both used Harbor Freight as a reference also.

I will order the Honda EU2000i from Northern Tool unless you know of a better price. Northern Tool is selling the Honda for $999 with free shipping.
Tony, I bought from Wise Sales in Schaumburg, IL. Good experience with free shipping. They're offering the same pricing and the companion model with the 30A plug for $100 more. They also carry useful accessories like a fabric cover, oil refill spout and hourmeter.

Honda Quiet Generators - RV Inverter Generator | Wise Sales
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 03:42 PM   #11
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
Honda it is. Now for the next question........
Is there any way to easily set up for running the gen off of a 6 gal. gas tank for O/B motor? I am not even remotely interested in the "Extended Run Tank" for $170.
__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 03:59 PM   #12
Guru
 
City: Fort Myers
Country: USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 956
Yes, do an ebay search, I had a Yamaha tank and fuel fitting, bought the Honda cap with the receiver for Yamaha and bingo all done.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony B View Post
Honda it is. Now for the next question........
Is there any way to easily set up for running the gen off of a 6 gal. gas tank for O/B motor? I am not even remotely interested in the "Extended Run Tank" for $170.
Marlinmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 04:19 PM   #13
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,185
...and Youtube instruction videos.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 05:35 PM   #14
Guru
 
Gulf Comanche's Avatar
 
City: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Name: Old School
Vessel Model: 38' Trawler custom built by Hike Metal Products
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 799
Since you can't run them in the rain or let them get wet, is there something out there that will solve the wet weather problem?
Gulf Comanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 05:40 PM   #15
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,920
I haven't had them in a driving rain...but many people have reported they run fine in the rain.

I've always put a rude covering to keep all but the heavy mist off...most stick them in something with some ventilation...everything form modified coolers to some pretty fancy boxes made for them to run in.
psneeld is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 05:47 PM   #16
Guru
 
Gulf Comanche's Avatar
 
City: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Name: Old School
Vessel Model: 38' Trawler custom built by Hike Metal Products
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 799
I think they probably run fine in wet weather, the no wet weather warning probably has to do with electric shock and attending lawsuits.
Gulf Comanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 06:08 PM   #17
Guru
 
City: North Charleston, SC
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gulf Comanche View Post
Since you can't run them in the rain or let them get wet, is there something out there that will solve the wet weather problem?
An umbrella.
rwidman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 06:16 PM   #18
Guru
 
City: Hotel, CA
Country: Fried
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gulf Comanche View Post
I think they probably run fine in wet weather, the no wet weather warning probably has to do with electric shock and attending lawsuits.

I have several permanently mounted exposed in truck beds and they are used rain or shine. Never had an issue. Except once, when one was removed from the truck and dropped in a ditch full of water while running, that one suffered a problem. Mounting them to the trucks eliminated that future failure point.
__________________
Craig

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
CPseudonym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2014, 11:34 PM   #19
Guru
 
ben2go's Avatar
 
City: Upstate,SC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: The Caroliner
Vessel Model: Plans to build 30' Spira Sitka
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,080
We recently had a discussion about the Honda generator enclosures and extended run fuel tanks.There's good info in this thread and cheap alternatives to expensive Honda options.
Honda Genset Housing
__________________
BEN'S BOAT BLOG

ben2go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2014, 08:48 AM   #20
Guru
 
Tony B's Avatar
 
City: Joe Wheeler State Park, Al
Country: Cruising/Live-Aboard USA
Vessel Name: Serenity
Vessel Model: Mainship 36 Dual Cabin -1986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlinmike View Post
Yes, do an ebay search, I had a Yamaha tank and fuel fitting, bought the Honda cap with the receiver for Yamaha and bingo all done.
It seems that all I would have to do is buy a spare cap and modify it to mate with my fuel tank hose fitting (Tohatsu 9.8). The fuel tank hose fitting/hose also has the squeeze bulb on it. I assume I use the squeeze bulb to get the whole cycle started flowing. My next question would be....Do I have to evacuate any air in my Honda built-in fuel tank by filling to the top or what?
Thanks in advance
__________________

__________________
Cruising the Eastern U.S. Inland Waterways and Gulf Coast. Presently on the ICW in Louisiana and heading Back to Texas.
Tony B is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012