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Old 03-15-2014, 06:06 PM   #81
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Like this one? This Hatteras (pretty sure not a Matthews) went by yesterday. She was beautiful, and towing a 17' motorboat. Guy had his sht together for sure! Can't figure out what model she is. A custom? She appears too large (that's a 45' in the background) to be a 50' Hatt, which I know some came without flybridges. 56'? Name is Quest.
Saw that boat in Bimini at Browns Marina.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:21 PM   #82
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58 Hatteras motor yacht mark 2

I think this a late 70's early 80's 58 Hatteras Motor Yacht Series 2, It shared the curved windshield corners and salon windows, dorade/ hatch on the foredeck with the LRC's. The hull looks the same as the 58 LRC, 18' beam Gorgeous yacht. I think the stack and missing bridge is a custom addition. It is a full displacement with long range capabilities.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:52 AM   #83
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The ideal engine room size
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:53 AM   #84
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Bob, how do you get in there to perform maintenance?
My question as well. There are no flat spaces to sit or kneel. I'd still consider a GB 32 if I could come up with a way around this problem.
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:41 AM   #85
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>I'd still consider a GB 32 if I could come up with a way around this problem.<

For most folks the only service is changine the oil,& fuel filters , replacing hoses , replacxing rubber sea water impellers.

If this can be done , why contemplate some horror ?
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:38 AM   #86
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I think this a late 70's early 80's 58 Hatteras Motor Yacht Series 2, It shared the curved windshield corners and salon windows, dorade/ hatch on the foredeck with the LRC's. The hull looks the same as the 58 LRC, 18' beam Gorgeous yacht. I think the stack and missing bridge is a custom addition. It is a full displacement with long range capabilities.
Nope, the one in the photo is a 53ED without a bridge. You can tell by the abbreviated aft deck and no walk around deck. Planing hull. 15'10" beam, split, walk-in ERs. (via Companionway to master stateroom aft)

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This interests me as well. I'm not fat yet but tall at 6'2" and have struggled to find an engine room I have felt comfortable in. The best engine room I have been in on so far in my boat search was on a Great Harbour GH37, and it was not stand up by any means. The worst was a custom pilothouse where you had to slither into a tiny dark crawl space. I looked at a Nordhanv 46 just for kicks (out of my range) and the engine room was not very roomy IMO. Do all Defevers have stand up engine rooms? I like the design of the 49 Pilothouse but can't seem to find one on the Gulf or East coast. I also wonder if I will be able to pick a good Defever from a bad one since most in my price range seem to be 1980 vintage or older. What are some other boats with true (or close) stand up engine rooms under 50'?
If you liked the Great Harbour GH37 you would really like the GH47. Then tour a Great Harbour N37 and N47 (same beam 16th and full standup)!

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As to old and fat I admit nothing....just say that it all relative.

I ended up with a tidy ER, and used spare carpet the PO had to lay about 62 sq ft in the ER. The inline JD's give much better access outboard of the engines compared to the old V8's. Pic of electrics before carpet.

When buying I had to compromise - not stand up, but pretty comfortable to work in after refit. Remove salon floor hatches for 6' x 6' access if required, but normally just slide in from door next to master stateroom.
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If you liked the Great Harbour GH37 you would really like the GH47. Then tour a Great Harbour N37 and N47 (same beam 16th and full standup)!
We're with you on that, Spotsville. Cardude and I have had many conversations about the GH and N series engine rooms.
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As to old and fat I admit nothing....just say that it all relative.

I ended up with a tidy ER, and used spare carpet the PO had to lay about 62 sq ft in the ER. The inline JD's give much better access outboard of the engines compared to the old V8's. Pic of electrics before carpet.

When buying I had to compromise - not stand up, but pretty comfortable to work in after refit. Remove salon floor hatches for 6' x 6' access if required, but normally just slide in from door next to master stateroom.
While looking at this, in the way off distance, I seem to be hearing " Handel's Messiah ", why is that ? Very nice.
Now comes the addition to the in port maint. list, (Shampoo the engine room).
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>I'd still consider a GB 32 if I could come up with a way around this problem.<

For most folks the only service is changine the oil,& fuel filters , replacing hoses , replacxing rubber sea water impellers.

If this can be done , why contemplate some horror ?
It's a question of seamanship. Ever see a sea strainer snap off of the thru-hull it was mounted on? I have. Packing nut back off? Yep. Hoses break? Electrical wires smoking due to over heating?
And what did that damn mechanic forget to put back on because he only knew engines and nothing about boats?
And that spare anchor and rode that shifted in a rough seaway and is now wrapped around your shaft coupling?
etc, etc, etc.
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It's a question of seamanship. Ever see a sea strainer snap off of the thru-hull it was mounted on? I have. Packing nut back off? Yep. Hoses break? Electrical wires smoking due to over heating?
And what did that damn mechanic forget to put back on because he only knew engines and nothing about boats?
And that spare anchor and rode that shifted in a rough seaway and is now wrapped around your shaft coupling?
etc, etc, etc.
Ah yes, that seamanship thing. As they say, the definition of cruising is " fixing your boat in exotic places". Like in a seaway for instance. I figure, if I can avoid having the ER itself be one of those "exotic places", I am just that much further ahead of the lion.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:27 AM   #93
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The Perfect Engine Room for old Fat Guys

I realize this is an older thread, but after reading the comments, I felt compelled to post an engine room photo from our Great Harbour N37. A couple of weeks ago there were two mechanics and myself in the engine room working on different projects and one of them laughed and said we should make a YouTube video of three guys in the same engine room.

Having a walk in engine room access was a big deal for me and it has paid dividends many times over. There is six feet of headroom inside the door and about five feet of headroom in the space between the engines. Oil changes and other routine maintenance is a breeze as there is 360 degree access for each engine.
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Hi Richard - well you answered my question - there's the sea chest! Cheers.

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I have found its easiest to live with (MOVE!) items OUT of the engine room.

Our 8D batts are under the salon, a few seconds to check the water level.

The tank selector and bank of Raycor 1000 are also OUT of the engine room .

A rotary oil pump is connected with hyd quick disconnects , so changing the oil is done sitting in the PH.

Only to change a starter was a trip down required.

All that space taken up to look at the engine for 2 min a day seems excessive to me.

We open the hatch after shut down , take a look, and its all secure till the AM.
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I realize this is an older thread, but after reading the comments, I felt compelled to post an engine room photo from our Great Harbour N37. A couple of weeks ago there were two mechanics and myself in the engine room working on different projects and one of them laughed and said we should make a YouTube video of three guys in the same engine room.

Having a walk in engine room access was a big deal for me and it has paid dividends many times over. There is six feet of headroom inside the door and about five feet of headroom in the space between the engines. Oil changes and other routine maintenance is a breeze as there is 360 degree access for each engine.
Not a fat dude but the ER is one of the reason the Great Harbour N37 is my dreamboat.
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You guys don't get it - just remember to tie a line around your ankle so the mate can haul you out when you get stuck. A winch or a crane helps.
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We downsized to our current boat and engine access was a consideration. We cruise in very remote areas and need to be able to DYI repairs. We looked at the NT 32 and the GB 32. Our Eagle 32 engine is accessible even to the old fat guy that has had a hip replaced, knee surgery, and major back surgery.
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Not the best shot of our engine room but William has a walk thru door in the vberth that takes you under the wheel house . I have good crawling room on each side of engine stand up room in front . The generator is under the aft deck in the old fish hold with access thru the deck and good crawling room . A bulkhead separates the generator from engine with about 6 ft between .
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