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Old 12-19-2013, 01:09 PM   #21
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I would agree with that. I think marine generators die more from lack of use, than actual use, at least in the pacnw and I suppose other areas where air conditioning is not as frequently used.
Agree with all...read my first post.

And on your other point....it seems most people do everything they can NOT to start the genset. They even spends thousands of dollars on systems(ie solar panels) to prevent them from starting the genset. I just simply.......start the MFing genset and load her up. No guilt here and I feel it is good for the machinery.
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:17 PM   #22
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Kevin-yours is an interesting point. In a lot of years boating, I actually have never heard anyone mention the generator end of the genset. I certainly have never given it a thought. All mention is of the engine end. I always just sort of assumed that the generator end came from the maker of the genset, not from a third party manufacturer. Thanks for enlightening me!
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:05 PM   #23
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My genset got a new electrical end a few years back...the Westerbeke engine is original now going on 25 years and almost 5400 hrs.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:16 PM   #24
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Agree with all...read my first post.

And on your other point....it seems most people do everything they can NOT to start the genset. They even spends thousands of dollars on systems(ie solar panels) to prevent them from starting the genset. I just simply.......start the MFing genset and load her up. No guilt here and I feel it is good for the machinery.
I agree completely. We use our generator all the time.

Often times at the dock, for example when washing clothes I actually disconnect the shore power because the loads are too much for the 30 amp shore power, but the generator works fine.
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Agree with all...read my first post. And on your other point....it seems most people do everything they can NOT to start the genset. They even spends thousands of dollars on systems(ie solar panels) to prevent them from starting the genset. I just simply.......start the MFing genset and load her up. No guilt here and I feel it is good for the machinery.
Im totally in 100% agreement with this! People don't see the bigger picture, or there too narrow minded to see it.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:32 PM   #26
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Kevin-yours is an interesting point. In a lot of years boating, I actually have never heard anyone mention the generator end of the genset. I certainly have never given it a thought. All mention is of the engine end. I always just sort of assumed that the generator end came from the maker of the genset, not from a third party manufacturer. Thanks for enlightening me!
People do not realize that the generator business is really putting together parts and putting your name on the generator.

Not all manufacturers are like this of course but thats the way it is for the most part.

A generator is nothing more than a prime mover (engine) coupled to a generator end, and add a control panel. Choose your brands.

The interface between the generator and the engine is all using standard SAE sized equipment now days. The engine has a SAE bellhousing and flywheel, and the generator end has the matching bellhousing and flex plates that bolt to the flywheel.

This trend at least in smaller generators started with the first EPA regulations years ago. Remember the ONAN MDJ series of generators. That was a ONAN engine with a tapered crank shaft fitted to an ONAN YD alternator.

The EPA caused ONAN to rethink wether they wanted to be in the engine business and they dropped the engine lines and went with bulk engine suppliers. Then they also dropped the generator end manufacturing side and bought generator ends.

Later Onan units were Kubota powered if memory serves correctly, and they were running Stamford Newage generator ends.

Northern Lights uses Kubota engines and Marathon generator ends in their small units. For awhile they used a brand out of Japan that was pretty good.

Control panels can come from several sources. A company called Deep Sea Electronics PLC seems to dominate that market.

So, if you want to build your own generator...

Buy a engine
govern it at 1800 rpm (or 1200 if you want a really long lasting unit)
Buy a generator end
Buy a control panel

Walla, Trawler Forum brand generators
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I agree completely. We use our generator all the time.

Often times at the dock, for example when washing clothes I actually disconnect the shore power because the loads are too much for the 30 amp shore power, but the generator works fine.
Some docks in our area do not allow you to run the genset at the dock. For noise reasons I suppose. Our Splendide 2000 works fine on 30 amp shore power, although we have to be careful of other loads at the time.
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