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11-23-2017, 11:02 AM
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City: Full Time Cruising East Coast
Vessel Name: Meridian
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Motor mount brand
Any idea the brand of these mounts? P.O. replaced two of the four. Others need replacing.
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Meridian
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11-23-2017, 11:45 AM
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City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
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Don’t like how the two mounting bolts are angled. Seems like all the mounts I have looked at are plumb to the stringer.
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11-23-2017, 01:10 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
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Pgitug,
I’m think’in the misalignment of the whole mount is unacceptable. See the rubber part is way off alignment. No wonder they needed replacement.
Those fender washers shouldn’t have been used. They are for soft materials. They probably pushed the two screws/bolts outboard fore and aft. If they aren’t bolts the holes will probably need to be drilled a size up and re-tapped.
meridian,
The English R&D mounts are good and may be a fit-in. The mounting “foot” and the mount needs to be aligned.
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North Western Washington State USA
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11-23-2017, 01:19 PM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Pgitug,
I’m think’in the misalignment of the whole mount is unacceptable. See the rubber part is way off alignment. No wonder they needed replacement
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I concur, I have never seen a motor mount mounted like that. Has the boat been re-powered with a different brand or size engine? If nothing else, get some techs in there to properly align the engine, drill new holes for the motor mount and plug up the other holes. You are not doing yourself any good, running with a motor mount under such a strain.
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11-23-2017, 07:13 PM
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City: Jacksonville
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Those look like Duel Flex mounts.
Here are the ones we have on our FL SP 135 that came from Bomac Marine. The fronts and rears are different sizes. I do not know what the part numbers are.
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11-23-2017, 07:24 PM
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City: Aventura FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Those look like Duel Flex mounts.
Here are the ones we have on our FL SP 135 that came from Bomac Marine. The fronts and rears are different sizes. I do not know what the part numbers are.
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I would encourage you to have them professionally installed so the engine is properly aligned. No need to compound a problem or create a problem in the future.
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11-23-2017, 09:48 PM
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City: Adelaide
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Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
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Installing them yourself and aligning the engine is not difficult, but it takes time and you must be a perfectionist. Use hydraulic jack (or two) under the oil pan with a large block(s) to spread the load evenly .
All four engine mounts must have equal load will no side stress.
I found that the easiest method was to do a course engine alignment with the mounts attached to the engine, but not to the stringer or mounting rail. With the mounts sitting flat make the height adjustment with the bottom nuts and slide the engine side to side if required for lateral adjustments.
Then drill the engine mount holes in the stringer if necessary and tighten it up.
Then check the alignment again, and make any fine adjustments required.
The final adjustment and alignment check must be done in the water as the boat will flex differently in water compared to on the hard.
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11-24-2017, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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The mounts must be chosen with the flex of the drive taken into account.
"Soft" mounts can allow more engine movement than the shaft can stand , and require soft flexible exhaust , fuel and wiring .
Sometimes an "upgrade" can be harmful.
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11-24-2017, 01:46 PM
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City: hawaii
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The angle of the mounting bolts (lags?) throws a red flag.
Look under the mounts for damage, rot and old holes not properly repaired.
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11-24-2017, 01:52 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kapnd
The angle of the mounting bolts (lags?) throws a red flag.
Look under the mounts for damage, rot and old holes not properly repaired.
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The more I look at it the more I am beginning to believe someone sold him "any old part".
The angle of the bolts is a dead give away.
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11-24-2017, 01:55 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
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Are the other two mounts much different in height?
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11-24-2017, 03:46 PM
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City: South Florida
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The hole in the bottom of the base (black box) is probably so you can put a tool in it and see if the spindle is bottomed out or not.
One thing that is common but not at all recommended of using the stud as an adjuster. All the thrust from the propeller is transferred through these engine mounts, and by the engine bracket being jacked up the stud the thrust is being transferred to a lever instead of the a fastener in shear.
The mount should be shimmed or / and an adjuster on top should be used.
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