|
|
10-15-2015, 05:13 PM
|
#21
|
Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,293
|
TF seems keener to solve the issue than the OP. Absent the facts its a wasted effort.
__________________
BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
|
|
|
10-15-2015, 05:22 PM
|
#22
|
Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
TF seems keener to solve the issue than the OP. Absent the facts its a wasted effort.
|
I think we've asked questions or posed issues he just doesn't want to respond to. That's fine. Just limits our ability to advise.
|
|
|
10-16-2015, 12:42 AM
|
#23
|
Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
|
Not enough information if it's a bad cylinder you repair the cylinder. bore sleeve it new rings. You may want to magma flux the head. if you have it torn down that far and can't find the problem. find a new mechanic. It's a Diesel engine it's not that complicated.
__________________
If you can't repair it maybe it shouldn't be on the boat
|
|
|
10-16-2015, 05:29 AM
|
#24
|
Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RBunz
I recently had a cylinder go bad on my diesel. Mechanic troubleshoots it and saws his shop can do the rebuild. He has the boat taken to a yard, hauled and removes the engine. He is not able to identify the root cause but rebuilds the damage cylinder, has injectors checked, etc. Reassembles engine and during the run up the engine fails.
He is now asking for quite a bit of money to continue to work on it. I believe in letting the experts do what they do best so not have pushed them on time or doing it cheap. I am also a small business owner and understand he has quite a bit of money in the repair but I don't have a running engine. So what should I pay him for at this point in the project??
Thanks
RB
|
You both stuffed up how I would have approached the problem
1 Strip
2 Find
3 Quote
4 Repair
5 Assemble and run
6 Repair ok pay what was quoted
7 Still not working mechanic's problem
8 Get on a forum
|
|
|
10-16-2015, 11:32 AM
|
#25
|
Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,820
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
This is really a tough one.
If the original cylinder failed in my opinion the shop bears the burden of making it right, so any labor after the original fix he should eat.
If any other part of the engine failed not related to his work then it's your engine, your money.
My problem with this whole thing is why go through all the work to pull an engine and not completely overhaul it, including the accessories???
That part makes little sense to me. Labor is your big cost, and you've already got it out and torn down, why not just do the job right and have a new engine out of the deal.
|
I think Kevin is right on. the fact that you asked the mechanic to DIAGNOSE and CORRECT puts the onus on him.
No Cure; No Pay
When I am trying to save money, i may do do the diagnose, and tell someone what to replace, but then if my diagnose is wrong, I pay for the work no matter what.
Same thing with providing parts. If I provide the part and the part is defective, I must pay twice for the work.
|
|
|
10-21-2015, 12:22 PM
|
#26
|
Member
City: Anacortes
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 14
|
All,
I have been busy with work so haven't been on the forum. So for those who said I wasn't interested, not the case.
I agree with the last post - No cure - no pay. This is what I have basically worked out with the mechanic. I have paid for the haul-out and pulling the engine from the boat. But beyond that I will not pay any more until the engine issues are resolved.
In the mean time I have also reached out to Volvo to gain access to the local rep and his engineering resources. The engine is coming out and going to a local factory authorized shop and we will find the root cause or its not going back in.
//Rick
|
|
|
10-21-2015, 02:52 PM
|
#27
|
Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
|
So what engine is it and what happpened? I do failure analyis for a living and threads like this pique my curiosity!!
|
|
|
10-21-2015, 05:23 PM
|
#28
|
Member
City: Anacortes
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 14
|
The engine is a Volvo TAMD41P turbo diesel. We apparently lost piston #6. Upon breaking the engine down we had a scuffed cylinder (lost the rings???) and the mechanic could not find anything else wrong.
//Rick
|
|
|
10-21-2015, 07:32 PM
|
#29
|
Senior Member
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Wine Down
Vessel Model: Riviera 35' FB
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 199
|
How many hours on the motor, RBunz? Just out of interest is all - TAMD41A's in mine.
|
|
|
10-21-2015, 08:08 PM
|
#30
|
Member
City: Anacortes
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 14
|
The engine had 1,550 hours on it. Pretty young for a diesel.
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Trawler Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|