Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 01-06-2014, 05:38 PM   #21
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,877
Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy View Post
They look like a regular old pair of bent needle nose pliers that have been modified with a grinder a little heat to me. Ten bucks and ten minutes at a bench grinder and a vice would give the same result.

I have all sorts of modified tools like that for specific jobs.

As far as the leverage thing goes, throw a thin piece of wood or plastic behind them at the fulcrum.
..............
__________________
Advertisement

psneeld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 05:52 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
HenryD's Avatar
 
City: Heading south for Ft. Myers
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Seven Tenths
Vessel Model: Mirage / Great Harbour 47
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 353
I have the same bent long nose pliers from Bay Shore Marine - for $40, they have then done and ready to go. Amazing how much easier this tool makes it. On my Yanmars the stringers are in the way, so this tool allowed me to remove the impeller from below. When you do this - PLEASE check the new impeller before you install it. Four direct from the local dealer all had cracked vanes at the hub.
__________________

HenryD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 06:39 PM   #23
Guru
 
City: North Charleston, SC
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,390
Quote:
Originally Posted by ActiveCaptain View Post
............. Adding some non-petroleum lubricant can help (I like Crisco)............
"Astroglide" or a similar personal lubricant works well and comes in a convenient container with a screw on lid. Another option is glycerin which you can find at your local drug store.

The PO of my boat left this tool on the boat:


It is pricy if you have to buy new it but it works very well and won't damage anything.
rwidman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:11 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
capt jerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 321
harbor freight has a pair just like that but the prongs are a little shorter,i have a pair and they work pretty good,but the ones shone look better, but any port in a storm?
capt jerry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:11 PM   #25
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,175
Before buying an expensive tool to remove a throw away cheap part, try 'bumping' the engine with the starter while the access plate is removed. Your Admiral can sit there with a catcher's mitt to keep it from falling into the bilge.

PM me and I'll send you my address to send half the money I just saved you.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:42 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
City: Pittsburg, CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: NoMoBoat
Vessel Model: Trawlers
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 278
Al,

Can you be serious?!

I am a bit overdue to replace mine and I have been dreading the thought of having to pry the old one out.
Do you put any lube on the old one before you spin the motor, or just on the new one that goes back in.

Thanks for a great tip.(if it works)
__________________
JimS on the Delta
Delta_JimS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:48 PM   #27
Senior Member
 
jukesy's Avatar
 
City: Victoria BC
Vessel Name: LUCKY US
Vessel Model: American Tug
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 268
I've started buying the impellers with the threaded thru plate. Couple of more bucks for the impeller but makes changing it the cats ass.
jukesy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:55 PM   #28
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,260
So, when does one decide to replace the impeller? When engine temperatures become higher than normal or when the wet exhaust is heading toward "dry"? What?
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:59 PM   #29
Guru
 
N4712's Avatar
 
City: South FL
Country: U.S.A
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,613
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
So, when does one decide to replace the impeller? When engine temperatures become higher than normal or when the wet exhaust is heading toward "dry"? What?
What if you have a dry exhaust???? There must be a pump that circulates the coolant thought the keel cooler, hmm lemme go hunt it down.
__________________
Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
N4712 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 09:11 PM   #30
Veteran Member
 
City: Lamaline
Country: Canada
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 34
If you have space then 2 screwdrivers will usually get the impeller.Put electrical tape or piece old fuel line on screwdrivers where it makes contact with pump housing.I have seen a fellow use a heat gun on a stubborn one (the brass bushing will expand before the shaft). On older engines usually they were easier to access but newer versions its something like a new car (open hood, close hood ).
Iceberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 09:17 PM   #31
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,877
Quote:
Originally Posted by N4712 View Post
What if you have a dry exhaust???? There must be a pump that circulates the coolant thought the keel cooler, hmm lemme go hunt it down.
Usually depends on YOUR PARTICULAR boat on how it set up...but on many keel cooled boats there is a booster pump beyond the engine coolant pump....often a rubber vaned pump much like the rest described here.
psneeld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 09:30 PM   #32
Veteran Member
 
City: Lamaline
Country: Canada
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 34
Its like psneeld said all depends on your setup.I have dry exhaust Perkins 63544 and the coolant pump on engine takes care off the keel cooler.If I had wet exhaust then I would need raw water pump.
Iceberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 10:12 PM   #33
Guru
 
HopCar's Avatar


 
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,500
Sea-Dog makes pullers similar to the Jabsco ones but at about half the price.
I'd post a link on where to buy them but forum rules prevent me.

I've always used the two screw driver method but I do worry about damage to the housing.
HopCar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 10:43 PM   #34
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,175
Sea-Dog Impeller Puller

__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 10:51 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Boatgm's Avatar
 
City: Manila
Country: Guam / Manila
Vessel Name: Carabao
Vessel Model: Home built power tri
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 100
I pull my raw water impeller all the time, lub it and reinstall it. It’s become easy and fast. Since Dec . I have covered 1700 miles and had it out twice. Practice makes perfect
Boatgm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 10:53 PM   #36
Guru
 
N4712's Avatar
 
City: South FL
Country: U.S.A
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,613
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright View Post
Beat me to it.
__________________
Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
N4712 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 10:55 PM   #37
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
So, when does one decide to replace the impeller? When engine temperatures become higher than normal or when the wet exhaust is heading toward "dry"? What?
Every two years
__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:14 PM   #38
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,175
Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze View Post
Every two years
I'd go by what the engine mfr recommends, but I also use 2 years/200-250 hrs as a change interval.

Delta_JimS, I've been told that it works. The first time I have a hard time removing the impeller, I'll try it myself. Hasn't really been a problem so far. I do have some small L-shaped picks that help my grab it from behind.



Like many engines, my 4.236 Perkins leave too little room aft of the pump (and fwd of the starter) to fit an impeller puller.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:43 PM   #39
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,260
Thanks. I'll schedule that at the next engine maintenance cycle (mid-summer 2014).
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 12:15 AM   #40
Guru
 
HopCar's Avatar


 
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,500
Thanks Oliver and Al you guys are the best!
__________________

HopCar is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012