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02-23-2016, 07:42 AM
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
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IMHO - in addition to ensuring the boat is correctly propped for load I would always run pyro and boost gages on these types of turbo engines. Once you are above a level where you will be utilizing 30 hp per liter having real time knowledge of EGT and boost is an easy and quick way to know if you are nearing trouble. Adding both pyro and boost to twin engines cost less than $500 if you are handy and could easily save yourself a lot of grief. Too many boats begin life correctly loaded but then changes to their weight, hull, running gear, or the weather put them in an operating zone which could cause real issues.
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02-23-2016, 08:21 AM
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#22
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cardude01
Yes. I would do this yesterday.
Why are they running so fast in the ICW anyway???
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Why wouldn't you?
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02-23-2016, 08:41 AM
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#23
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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How long is it safe to run Wide Open Throttle?
Because I can't I guess. 😄
Actually, I like going slow so I can take in the scenery. I can't imagine going that fast through most of the WC Florida ICW. That would be nerve wracking.
In open water fast would be nice however.
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02-23-2016, 09:19 AM
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Guru
City: Gulf Shores, Ala.
Vessel Name: Ulysses
Vessel Model: Romsdal 1963
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 878
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A fatter boat might be going slower.
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02-23-2016, 09:19 AM
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#25
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Hopefully you have figured shorter engine life into your charter fees.
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02-23-2016, 09:23 AM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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the running gear guys love people going fast in the shallow ,twisting often changing Gulf coast ICW
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02-23-2016, 11:18 AM
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Guru
City: Pender Harbour, BC
Vessel Name: Gwaii Haanas
Vessel Model: Custom Aluminum 52
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,791
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Read your engine manual.
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Don't believe everything that you think.
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02-23-2016, 11:50 AM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cardude01
Yes. I would do this yesterday.
Why are they running so fast in the ICW anyway???
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Wifey B: Ummm.... To some of us 15 knots is slow.
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02-23-2016, 11:53 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,683
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Yesterday, east of Fort Myers. He was probably doing 50 and I doubt he was at WOT. We heard him before we saw him.
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02-23-2016, 12:24 PM
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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How long is it safe to run Wide Open Throttle?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
Wifey B: Ummm.... To some of us 15 knots is slow.
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You young folks are always in such a hurry!
When I want to go fast I get in my dinghy with my big Johnson. 😁
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02-23-2016, 12:34 PM
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#31
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cardude01
You young folks are always in such a hurry!
When I want to go fast I get in my dinghy with my big Johnson. 😁
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Wifey B: Out dinghies are fast too.... Well, the gas ones are. 43 knots or so. Diesel only about 38 knots. We don't run them wide open though. A lot of 25 knots and 10-15 knots.
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02-23-2016, 12:39 PM
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#32
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Guru
City: Sidney
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Hughes
I have a LandAirSea GPS tracker
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Just curious. Does that tracker record?
I know signs mean nothing but, is it feasible to "warn" users they are being monitored and any use as described would mean automatic forfeiture of deposit?
Even tweaking the stops might not do the trick. A lot of us grew up with speedometers that could be disconnected on the old man's car.
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02-23-2016, 12:40 PM
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#33
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Yesterday, east of Fort Myers. He was probably doing 50 and I doubt he was at WOT. We heard him before we saw him.
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Wifey B: There are days I really want a boat like that. But then I realize that you still rarely run over 50 knots and you're dealing with engines and setups that give tons of trouble. I like the Nor-tech Roadsters or the Fountain Lightning. We resist the urge though. Fastest boat we've owned was a Cobalt 30' Bowrider on the lake. 55 knots WOT. We rarely ran over 40 knots and never for more than 5-10 minutes.
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02-23-2016, 12:41 PM
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#34
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,046
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Running at higher speeds in many areas down there is irresponsible.
When we did have the space to safely run fast we had a dinghy that did in excess of 55 knots.
Of course ...running slower is almost always more enjoyable.
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02-23-2016, 01:04 PM
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#35
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty477
Running at higher speeds in many areas down there is irresponsible.
When we did have the space to safely run fast we had a dinghy that did in excess of 55 knots.
Of course ...running slower is almost always more enjoyable.
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Wifey B: You don't run your car slower? Why don't you run it at 10 knots through scenic drives?
And clearly there are safe speeds for every area. I've been one time in a boat that would run 90 mph/78 knots. Honestly, I didn't feel safe and we were in an open area with no waves, no other boats. The margin for error just shrinks too much for me. One piece of tree or something floating just below the surface, one wave hit wrong. No thanks. For five minutes, it's fun. But not regularly. I've never driven my car even half its maximum speed and never will. I feel safe in the right boat, right area up to about 55-60 knots and in a car up to about 74 knots...85 mph. And that only when the speed limit is 80 or more.
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02-23-2016, 01:12 PM
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#36
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Wifey B: Back to the OP and Chartering. Bareboat chartering would scare me. I know how we baby our boats. I know someone else wouldn't do it the same. We regularly check the engines and fluids while cruising. I know my hubby would never be comfortable doing so. I guess if it cut your ownership costs enough though it's worth it.
I'm curious. Is your boat in a charter group of some sort or individually chartered or how did you get into chartering it? How much is it chartered? Was it like easy to get it set up to be chartered?
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02-23-2016, 01:12 PM
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#37
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Guru
City: Sidney
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB Wifey B:
I've been one time in a boat that would run 90 mph/78 knots. Honestly, I didn't feel safe...The margin for error just shrinks too much for me. One piece of tree or something floating just below the surface, one wave hit wrong. No thanks.
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Never rode a bike then, did ya?
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02-23-2016, 01:29 PM
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#38
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Guru
City: Northport
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,046
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"Wifey B: You don't run your car slower? Why don't you run it at 10 knots through scenic drives? "
At times we do and at some points we stop altogether, but we do not have a problem with 'waking' other cars so we are mostly OK with just about any posted speeds. On boats you can wake other folks as well as come upon them with little or no visibility and affect others without even knowing it sometimes.
I have felt reasonably safe on our inflatable at 50+ knots and equally as safe on a faster boat over 100 mph. Similarly I have felt completely safe in some cars well over 100 mph - depends on the vehicle involved and the conditions of the situation.
Since this was I an area of the ICW which typically changes rapidly it is somewhat likely that the operator could affect others by traveling at higher rates.
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02-23-2016, 01:57 PM
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#39
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,154
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Maybe the guy practices on the NJ intracoastal during the summer months....plenty of guys bobbing and weaving at 50+
...and in 13 years of being a rapid response guy on the water in a very busy area...never heard of one of the go fasts in an incident either from collision or wake in my area. Speed alone usually isn't automatically a causal factor in accidents.
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02-23-2016, 02:34 PM
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#40
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Member
City: Daytona
Vessel Model: Present 38
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 15
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Fyi
Engines always run their best right before they don't!
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