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07-09-2014, 09:44 PM
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Upon reading the Honda recommendations posted above it is safe to say I have consistently violated 7 of them since the first units where introduced to the American market. Especially the wet environment and uneven terrain ones.
Can only recall one incident ever putting one out of commission. I accidentally backed a 60,000 pound Kobelco excavator over a 3500 watt model, oops.
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07-09-2014, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
I accidentally backed a 60,000 pound Kobelco excavator over a 3500 watt model, oops.
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I don't think any generator marine or not can handle that. LOL.
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07-10-2014, 05:51 AM
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My 2000 on the custom mount with the Honda marine cover.
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07-10-2014, 05:56 AM
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Very nice set up.
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07-14-2014, 10:53 PM
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I have two of these stored aboard and commonly set one on the fore deck when at anchor so as to only consume 1 gallon every 6 hours instead of 6 to 9 gallons in the same time frame with the 9kw Beke. $1 per. hour -vs- $5 per. hour for keeping all systems active for small loads. What a bargain, not to mention the redundancy benefit
P.S. I bought the honda marine covers as well and I am having trouble remembering for sure but I think they came in honda sealed bags. Can anyone confirm ???
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07-14-2014, 11:18 PM
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There are racers that mount the little Honda gennies inside job boxes and trailer tongue boxes all the time.Those things run all weekend,probably 15 to 20 hours,with nothing more than a small vent for the exhaust.I can't see Captain K's set up being that bad,especially after seeing that Honda spec enclosure.The Honda spec unit has the venting really close to the intake and exhaust preventing airflow problems.
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07-15-2014, 01:37 AM
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I love the forum, some great ideas
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07-15-2014, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Doty
I have two of these stored aboard and commonly set one on the fore deck when at anchor so as to only consume 1 gallon every 6 hours instead of 6 to 9 gallons in the same time frame with the 9kw Beke. $1 per. hour -vs- $5 per. hour for keeping all systems active for small loads. What a bargain, not to mention the redundancy benefit
P.S. I bought the honda marine covers as well and I am having trouble remembering for sure but I think they came in honda sealed bags. Can anyone confirm ???
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Sounds exactly like the same philosophy I have about the little guys.
It will be a difficult decision to make if/when the big genset ever requires more money than it's worth and replacing it hits the table.
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07-15-2014, 07:37 AM
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One of the options of the Honda generators, as I understand it, is that you can run two (or more) in parallel so as to have more output power available. While one might be a bit iffy to run my A/C, two should do it. Has anyone done this? If so, how well does it seem to work?
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07-15-2014, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwnall
One of the options of the Honda generators, as I understand it, is that you can run two (or more) in parallel so as to have more output power available. While one might be a bit iffy to run my A/C, two should do it. Has anyone done this? If so, how well does it seem to work?
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People I know of and many have written that it works very well for what it's supposed to do...I think some have even paralleled a 1000 with a 2000 because they already had one or the other.
People have also developed their own parallel cords because Honda OEM one seem to be or were pretty pricey.
Can't say it will work with your A/C but the method seems to work great up to the "continuous limit" of the added combo...which is less than the magic number written on the side. (2000 is only 1600 continuous and 1000 is only 900).
If your A/C is near even continuous rating and a hard starting compressor ...the momentary ability to overcome it may not be enough. Unfortunately what may work for one may not work for another demand.
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07-15-2014, 08:37 PM
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There is a carry on A/C installed on my 79 Mainship just below the flybridge steering wheel it does fit well and out of the way, some one was thinking, you can buy the units for about $300 from the sailor exchange in Jacksonville. The Honda runs the A/C unit, battery charger and the fridge
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07-18-2014, 09:53 AM
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I believe I was the one who asked for pictures of your enclosure. I had seen a home made enclosure locally using an over-sized Rubbermaid bin with sound deadening insulation and extended exhaust but I didn't quite like it. I may emulate your enclosure. Many thanks.
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07-18-2014, 12:48 PM
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NoPlans--Years ago I used a plastic deck box purchased from Target as an enclosure. I cut the bottom out of the box, and installed aluminum side vents and an oversize vent on the exhaust end. Clearance between the Honda and the enclosure? About 2"-3" all around. No exhaust extension required. I also put a water resistant electrical housing on the opposite end for the power cord. With the bottom removed, the Honda could sit directly on the deck. The box had four 2" high legs which kept the sides of the box off the deck, and allowed ventilation openings around the bottom of all four sides. I put a rubber mat beneath the Honda to help absorb vibration. Worked wonderfully well for years. No matter how hard it rained, the little Honda was unaffected and purred along quite happily without overheating in the least. Cost of that box? About $25 at Target as I recall. It's definitely a viable option should you decide to go that way. Even if it doesn't work out for you, it would be a cheap experiment.
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07-18-2014, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwidman
I remember on another forum, someone was customizing a Styrofoam cooler to hold his Honda generator.
There's probably a reason Honda doesn't market an enclosure for its generators. I don't know what that is.
There's also probably a reason Honda doesn't market its generators to boaters.
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US tort laws.
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07-18-2014, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
US tort laws.
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07-18-2014, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain K
NoPlans--Years ago I used a plastic deck box purchased from Target as an enclosure. I cut the bottom out of the box, and installed aluminum side vents and an oversize vent on the exhaust end. Clearance between the Honda and the enclosure? About 2"-3" all around. No exhaust extension required. I also put a water resistant electrical housing on the opposite end for the power cord. With the bottom removed, the Honda could sit directly on the deck. The box had four 2" high legs which kept the sides of the box off the deck, and allowed ventilation openings around the bottom of all four sides. I put a rubber mat beneath the Honda to help absorb vibration. Worked wonderfully well for years. No matter how hard it rained, the little Honda was unaffected and purred along quite happily without overheating in the least. Cost of that box? About $25 at Target as I recall. It's definitely a viable option should you decide to go that way. Even if it doesn't work out for you, it would be a cheap experiment.
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Here was my experiment with the plastic container.
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07-18-2014, 05:40 PM
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City: Hotel, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwidman
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_tort_law
This may help. It's been a topic of much debate in this country for 20 or so years. Brought you things like "caution contents may be hot" warning labels on coffee cups and such.
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07-18-2014, 07:15 PM
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City: North Charleston, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
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I know what US tort laws are, that's just a strange response to my post. It doesn't really say anything.
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07-18-2014, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
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Or "Do not use this lawnmower as a hedge trimmer"
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